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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 06:58 AM
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I agree the numbers are sad for a 96 but in the same token HD is building motors for longer use with sloppy tolerance standards and under strick regulations to keep the EPA folks happy. So at least we have a decent starting point to do what we need to do.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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I've heard that the 95 inch kit is capable of outdoing the 96. It'd be intersting to see gthe two back to back dynoed with identicle or at least close to the same upgrades done.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by tpmurray
I think the torque values that HD publishes are measured at the crank, without the overhead of the rear wheel and drive train, so they will be higher than a rear wheel dyno.
That is what I have read before, so the HD published numbers are misleading at best.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Long124
I agree the numbers are sad for a 96 but in the same token HD is building motors for longer use with sloppy tolerance standards and under strick regulations to keep the EPA folks happy. So at least we have a decent starting point to do what we need to do.
There is a lot of true in what you just said. Thanks
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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Those are Crank numbers. 65 HP and 73 Ft. Lbs. at the wheel on the Dyno. Just did it when I installed my PC 3 and True Duals. Now I get 70 HP and 85 Ft. Lbs.
Rule of thumb, substract 15% from Crank numbers for drive line loss.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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A stock 96" is weak at best.Call Jamie and get his FuelMoto kit and your looking at 78hp/91tq.Call Frank at DragosBikeWorks{815-765-1790} like I did and I F@#%&ing love it and get a Pro-Charger put on it and your looking at about 123hp/108tq.You wont regret it I promise.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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Bone stock 66/80
Stage 1 75/90
 

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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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Isn't the 95 inch big bore kit for a 88 inch stock motor? Doesn't it include a cam upgrade. In other words its a hop up kit. Are you comparing apples to apples when you compare it to a bone stock 96 inch motor. I don't know, I'm just asking.
 
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Originally Posted by kromdom
TORQUE = 92.60 ft lbs @ 3500 rpm

got above from here: http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/C...S#/model/flhrc
That 92 ft/lb. figure is measured at the flywheel, not at the rear wheel as with the universally accepted method.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Long124
I agree the numbers are sad for a 96 but in the same token HD is building motors for longer use with sloppy tolerance standards and under strick regulations to keep the EPA folks happy. So at least we have a decent starting point to do what we need to do.
Fuel Moto dyno tested a stock '09 FLH which produced 65HP and 77TQ.
 
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