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hey you're not married to that dealer, take it to another one who wants to cure the problem. sounds like the one you're dealing with, isn't interested in your problem. do it while it's still under warranty. there is a bit of a kick in the neck that counteracts the usual crown in the road. which is why roads usually drain to the ditch rather than being totally flat. but i'd be suspecting a rear swingarm, and or engine/trans alignment issue. i am not sure but perhaps the link from the frame to the front cylinder head???? it's new for 08 models, and still used on 09's. get it to another dealer, he may genuinely want to help resolve the issue. my 08 sg, is straight as an arrow, hands off, sometimes a tad of body english to correct. are your bags loaded the same weight, that can offset and cause you to lean to correct the weight in the bags, causing what you're describing, if one bag is loaded heavy and the other one empty.
Here is a procedure that i read awhile back, and saved it to a file for future reference.
BTW my 03 RK doesn't have any pull or drift even when the bags are unevenly weighted.
HD TOURING ALIGNMENT
Jack up the bike and set on stand then got the frame dead nuts level with a good quality two foot level across the frame tubes under the seat.
Sears sells a laser that is cheap, projects a flat plane for about 180 deg., has a magnetic base, and the plane can be rotated 90 deg to vertical or horizontal.
I put one laser on front and rear brake rotors on the same side of the bike pointing forward. Mounted this way the laser's project a beautiful red line on the floor.
Then put a magnetic base torpedo level on front and rear rotors to check for vertical.
Take the center bolt out of the front motor mount and loosen the lock nuts on the rod eyes at the front and top of motor.
Turn the front end until the level on the front rotor shows vertical.
Adjust the top rod eye to get the rear rotor vertical then adjust both rod eyes until rear laser intersects front laser directly below the front axle center and be sure to keep the front and rear rotors vertical. Adjusting one rod eye changes the other. So after the first adjustment of top rod eye to get rear rotor vertical adjust both rod eyes together.
Loosen the front motor mount and move over to match the engine plate hole.
Be sure to tighten everything up.
You will be amazed how well the bike handles when it's all lined up!
When I started the bubble in the level on the rear rotor was about a third pass the line with the wheel leaning to the right. The laser on the rear shot way right of the front and missed the front axle center line by about 1 1/4".
What started me on this was when I rode the bike and looked down at the speedo the *** end looked to be tracking to the right. It was ez to see why when I checked the alignment. And, a buddy of mine who has the same bike told me his bike was way out of alignment too. He used straight edges to align his.
Great explabaation of how to get the wheels ligned up vertically, also suggest that tou go to Motorcyclemetal.com and check Howards hints and kinks section for alignment, his method of alignment for tracking is relatuvely easy to follow and will get you tracking perfectly without great expense for tools. Every time you have the top motor mount off you should check the vertical alignment and correct if necessary. On a two wheeled vehicle for alignment to show up any tire wear trends the problem would have to be extreme and most cupping would be due to balance or inflation problems and possibly shocks. REED
Sorry I don't have the same drifting issue but I had an issue with my fuel qauge pegging full after several times to the dealer showing them that the gauge reads full then opening the gas cap and seeing maybe a 1/2 gallon of fuel they would tell me that there was nothing wrong with it or the gauge is for reference only. Well after the third time of taking the bike back I had the service manager tell me that there was nothing wrong at that point I took my cell phone out and placed a call to Harley and made a complaint with the service manager standing right there. Guess what, they finally went into the tank and discovered the float was getting stuck on the wiring harness. Just tied the harness back and the problem was solved. Needless to say, I haven't been back to this dealership. After buying three bikes from them you would think they would care. Nope... You see, stealerships are only interested in service work such as 1, 5 and 10K mile services to the tune of about 300 + bucks a pop. Or adding overpriced chrome parts. They don't want to spend time troubleshooting a problem that will be waranty work which they would be paid very little from the motoco. Personally I prefer to do my own work now and what I can't or don't want to do I found a local guy that will do the work for me. Not sure how to solve your issue but you shouldn't let them just blow you off. When you do call the motoco or go back to the dealership again, approach it as a safety issue. Ask them to provide you with something in writting stating your issue and them telling you that nothing is wrong. Okay I will get off my soap box now. Sorry folks!
Last edited by moonlighter64; May 23, 2009 at 05:23 AM.
The MOCO can't build bikes that track straight (except by accident and very rarely). Every H-D I've ever owned did it. Whaddaya expect for $25,000? If they actually built these things right, they'd cost a fortune! Every cheaply built Jap bike I've owned could be ridden hands-off all day - go figure.
Hello All,
I'm new here. I was referred by a HD dealer. I purchased a 08' Anniversary Road King just about a year ago. I am experiencing a problem with it that my dealer tells me isn't there. I have had others ride my bike and they too experience it also. The dealer tells me they can't duplicate it.
The Problem: When riding the bike down the road, doesnt' matter the speed, the bike will slowly start to drift left, then drift more quickly the further it goes. I have to constantly apply a light pull on the left grip the whole time I'm riding it. To correct it so that it doesn't drift left with no hands, I have to sit with the right cheek of my butt way off the seat and my upper body way to the right of center.
History: When I first bought the bike it did it. The dealer told me to keep driving it until it's first check as it was probably a break in adjustment. When the bike went in they told me they could not get the bike to do it and wheel alignment, fork oil, tire pressure, etc. was all correct. I kept riding the bike hoping it would quit doing it. I sent the bike in to put a chrome front end on and they again went through everything again. This was done during the winter so I didn't ride it again for a while. Well, got on it and sure enough, still doing it. I took it back and told them that something was wrong. I told them if they set the cruise and took their hands off the handlebars, they would easily see the problem. They called and said they found the problem and the bike was ready. When I went to pick it up they said that the tire inflation was way off and that was the reason. So I said to them, "so, what your telling me is that you delivered the bike to me with incorrect air pressure and I guess I've never checked my air pressure?" They must think I'm stupid. I again take the bike home and sure enough. NO CHANGE, it's still doing it! Now I call back really P'd off and they tell me that they are not allowed to remove both hands at the same time! Supposedly HD rules. I said you really don't have to take your hands off but just hold the grips loosely and you will have it happen. Well, I went to Daytona this past Feb. and put on close to 1,800 miles in one week. My left arm was aching from having to constantly hold the pressure to pull the left grip back. Something is wrong!
Suggestions: I am looking for help here. Has anyone else had any problem like this and been told what I have been told. A local after market parts guy who has been around for forty years and is well respected told me he had heard that there is a problem with the wheels that came with this bike. The wheels are the the ones that are totally round or shaped like a half circle. There is no definition in the rim in the bead area. Can anyone shed some light on this. I am going to get the owner of the dealership aside and give a piece of my mind on this. I tell the people at the dealer to get on the bike and ride it but they never do. They always have just the mechanic who it is assigned to, ride it. The dealer (not where I bought the bike) that told me to post here agrees with me that it must be alignment but still told me to ask. Any suggestions.
Thanks in Advance,
Ted
Ted, I can sympathise with your plight. I have a 2009 Road King Standard that drifts to the left. To make matters worse (exasperates the drift left) here in Australia we ride on the left side of the road with a camber that falls to the left. My dealer checked the alignment and the Tech said it was OK (his offsider said he noticed the drift!). I took it back some time later and the dealer said they all do it. I have put on 18,000 km and my front tire has clear indications of scalloping wear. Rather than argue the point with the dealer and HD I have made the simple decision that this will be my first and last HD. My ridings buddies know the issue I have had with this bike and I saved at least one of them anguish of having to put up with the same bull^%$t. He was about to purchase a Harley when he heard my story and brought a Yamaha (Star) Roadliner instead. It rides as straight as a die, the Yamaha dealer is currently finding me one (trade in the HD). The truth is some manufactures take more pride in their work and produce a quality product and strive for continual improvement. Its my humble opinion, that sadly, HD doesnt make the grade.
This is probably stupid, and i do not know what im talking about, but could the problem be in the triple trees? maybe they was machined with a slight of center on one of them, putting one fork ahead of the other? I know, its a stupid question/thought, but its even more stupid to not ask.
08 Ultra about out of warranty. Mine drifts left when I take my hands of the bars, not noticeable otherwise. Complained when it was new and they told me it was normal. My 97 Heritage tracked true all day long. I think it could be the fairing, mine looks off but can't figure out how to adjust it. (course I tried to run over a Chevrolet a while back too and didn't notice that it looked off before that. Dealer says everything is good????)
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