Tire question/problem on fitment
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From: Lawrenceville
MT90-16 = 130-90-16
MU85-16 = 140/90-16
Sometimes you can size a MU on certain bikes. Not what the difference is but it can happen. We've seen one bike take it and the other was no way in hell, same year.
I called the brakes right. When brakes wear people tend to think a soft lever is due to low fluid. they add fluid then when pads are changed you have to much fluid in the closed system and the brakes will not release.
I'll bet money the "HD" tech had problems getting the one of the calipers back on and was to lazy pop the top on the MC to do it right.
Guys just because these HD techs go to HD school doesn't mean they know everything. There are really good ones out there that care and then there are the flunky's that are just doing a job.
99% of the time the flunky's are changing tires and brakes and the good ones are doing motor work and shoot down bigger fish that others can't fix.
JMO
MU85-16 = 140/90-16
Sometimes you can size a MU on certain bikes. Not what the difference is but it can happen. We've seen one bike take it and the other was no way in hell, same year.
I called the brakes right. When brakes wear people tend to think a soft lever is due to low fluid. they add fluid then when pads are changed you have to much fluid in the closed system and the brakes will not release.
I'll bet money the "HD" tech had problems getting the one of the calipers back on and was to lazy pop the top on the MC to do it right.
Guys just because these HD techs go to HD school doesn't mean they know everything. There are really good ones out there that care and then there are the flunky's that are just doing a job.
99% of the time the flunky's are changing tires and brakes and the good ones are doing motor work and shoot down bigger fish that others can't fix.
JMO
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I called the brakes right. When brakes wear people tend to think a soft lever is due to low fluid. they add fluid then when pads are changed you have to much fluid in the closed system and the brakes will not release.
I'll bet money the "HD" tech had problems getting the one of the calipers back on and was to lazy pop the top on the MC to do it right.
99% of the time the flunky's are changing tires and brakes and the good ones are doing motor work and shoot down bigger fish that others can't fix.
JMO
I'll bet money the "HD" tech had problems getting the one of the calipers back on and was to lazy pop the top on the MC to do it right.
99% of the time the flunky's are changing tires and brakes and the good ones are doing motor work and shoot down bigger fish that others can't fix.
JMO
I can't get over how the service writer was scolding me for removing what amounts to drops of brake fluid. I asked him what happens to the fluid that gets added when they do the regular services such as 5k and 10k. He didn't understand my question. I then asked if a bike comes in for service and fluid is low do you top it off? He says yes of course. Now, months and miles later you try and change pads what happens to the fluid? He said you just push the caliper pistons in. My salesman who watched this, initially agreed not to open m/c but then the light bulb went off in his head.
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I can't get over how the service writer was scolding me for removing what amounts to drops of brake fluid. I asked him what happens to the fluid that gets added when they do the regular services such as 5k and 10k. He didn't understand my question. I then asked if a bike comes in for service and fluid is low do you top it off? He says yes of course. Now, months and miles later you try and change pads what happens to the fluid? He said you just push the caliper pistons in. My salesman who watched this, initially agreed not to open m/c but then the light bulb went off in his head.
I would never take any kind of scolding from asshats like that after you find out they screwed up.. I have asked for the owner and a meeting in his office with the idiot service writer .
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The MU is not only wider than MT but also has a higher load rating. I prefer Avons myself and they recommend that I use the wider tyre if it will fit, especially when riding 2-up a lot. I recently fitted their 140/90 on the rear of my old FLHS and prefer it.
The fitted width of a front MT is around 136mm, a rear MT is only 133mm, but a MU or 140 rear is actually 143mm. In other words you need at least 3/16 inch clearance between belt guard and tyre to get the wider one in. On my old bike I removed the rubber curtain of the belt guard to get mine in and have only 3/16 inches clearance between belt and edge of the tyre. I understand later models have more width, but it seems it varies between bikes!
The fitted width of a front MT is around 136mm, a rear MT is only 133mm, but a MU or 140 rear is actually 143mm. In other words you need at least 3/16 inch clearance between belt guard and tyre to get the wider one in. On my old bike I removed the rubber curtain of the belt guard to get mine in and have only 3/16 inches clearance between belt and edge of the tyre. I understand later models have more width, but it seems it varies between bikes!
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I can't get over how the service writer was scolding me for removing what amounts to drops of brake fluid. I asked him what happens to the fluid that gets added when they do the regular services such as 5k and 10k. He didn't understand my question. I then asked if a bike comes in for service and fluid is low do you top it off? He says yes of course. Now, months and miles later you try and change pads what happens to the fluid? He said you just push the caliper pistons in. My salesman who watched this, initially agreed not to open m/c but then the light bulb went off in his head.
Glad it worked out for you. Now go in search of a indy or outlaw shop.
Drop by a couple of times and check them out. See what kinda of bikes are there when you do stop in. Make sure there not the same ones after two weeks. Make sure yoiu like them.
I invite people to just drop by and check us out before we do any work. Talk to any customers that might be waiting on their bikes.
The best references are the customers that are there.
Glad they got everything fixed.
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From: Lawrenceville
The MU is not only wider than MT but also has a higher load rating. I prefer Avons myself and they recommend that I use the wider tyre if it will fit, especially when riding 2-up a lot. I recently fitted their 140/90 on the rear of my old FLHS and prefer it.
The fitted width of a front MT is around 136mm, a rear MT is only 133mm, but a MU or 140 rear is actually 143mm. In other words you need at least 3/16 inch clearance between belt guard and tyre to get the wider one in. On my old bike I removed the rubber curtain of the belt guard to get mine in and have only 3/16 inches clearance between belt and edge of the tyre. I understand later models have more width, but it seems it varies between bikes!
The fitted width of a front MT is around 136mm, a rear MT is only 133mm, but a MU or 140 rear is actually 143mm. In other words you need at least 3/16 inch clearance between belt guard and tyre to get the wider one in. On my old bike I removed the rubber curtain of the belt guard to get mine in and have only 3/16 inches clearance between belt and edge of the tyre. I understand later models have more width, but it seems it varies between bikes!
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