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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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A buddy told me he punched out his stock pipes and installed a high flow air filter. Brought the bike to his dealer and the head tech told him that he would reflash the ECM for the Stage 1 Kit. Tech said that a fuel management device was not needed....I think he's crazy myself,,,

Buddy says the bike is running a lot cooler now.....I always thought the the reflash just brought the bike back to the same lean condition as stock and within EPA regulations..

I noticed riding behind him today that the pipes were doing a lot of popping....

Bikes an '08 Deluxe.....

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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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All you need for Stage I is an ECM flash. The end.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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I'm with Izzo on this one - the ECM flash (i.e. HD download) has worked well for me with these types of minor modifications. It might be that an aftermarket fuel manager would squeak out a bit more performance, but why not go the easy route that accomplishes much of the same goal?
 
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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yep a Stage 1 flash will help you out quite a bit it is a step in the right direction some folks stop there with the addition of a high flow A/C and pipes like you mentioned gotta let those puppies breath
 
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Read the spark plugs after a highway speed shut-down to see the colours to determine if too lean or not.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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I guess I stand corrected.

I thought that the flash still gave a lean condition from other posts I've read on here.....

If not, I guess a lot of us, including me, have wasted money on a Power Commander, Fuel Pak, Race Tuner, etc....
 
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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I ran my 06 RK Classic with the SE air intake and slip on exhaust and just the flash for 2 1/2 years. However, I didn't really know how well the motor could run until I installed a PCIII. Fuel Moto USA (HD forums sponsor I believe) uploaded a good "flash" and I had it installed in just a few days.

Just my thoughts...

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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Installed the SE Ventilator AC and my big radius pipes towards the beginning of summer. Just used a stage 1 download since I'm going to get into the engine and cams over the winter and didn't really want to dyno it twice. So far I haven't had any issues at all. I'm sure I could dial it ina little better with some fuel managemen, but It's good enough until I do the serious work.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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my deuce had a download and poped like crazy on decel. i hated it.
my 04 ultra has a sert,guess what no pops.
gonna go that route again my 2010 limited.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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Stage 1 and 2" rush pipes with flash and has worked well.
 
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