SOHB primary adjuster
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Feb 2006
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From: TX
First off, the HD "auto" tightener is exactly that - a tightener, NOT an adjuster. It is a piece of #%Ľ!
The SOHB unit is superior, as it actually is an adjuster and will not OVER tighten the primary chain, like the other one DOES.
I've used their previous version on older bikers for years.
While the new one is not quite like the older hydraulic one, it's a HUGE improvement over the stock 07+ POS.
The SOHB unit is superior, as it actually is an adjuster and will not OVER tighten the primary chain, like the other one DOES.
I've used their previous version on older bikers for years.
While the new one is not quite like the older hydraulic one, it's a HUGE improvement over the stock 07+ POS.
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Joined: Sep 2007
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From: Boise Idaho
I put one in last weekend and it seems to work fine.
Road Master
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From: California
Any additional feedback other than working fine? Have you notice a decrease in primary noise or smoother operation...or anything positive? Did you notice any difference versus stock?
Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,416
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From: Northern Part of the Great Lone Star State
I have the older HB125 in my 06 Ultra and was very happy with it...So with the purchase of the 09 S/G I desided to get another...To my surprise the older version wouldn't mate up to my newer design that H-D offers...
So I bought the newer version for my 09 S/G and as luck would have it I got one of the earlier ones off the production line...
Its instructions are not self explanitory by any means...
You do have to remove the spacers on the H-D tensioner unit and install on the SOHB unit...Don't ask me how I know...
Anyway the Tensioner seemed to be working great the shifting was so much smoother then with the H-D version...Now with this said...I had also put some Slick Trick ATF Fluid in there at the same time as well...
I keep noticing that there was like ball bearing in the inner primary...
I later learned that the tensioner wasn't holding the tension on the chain like it was supposed to do...It was bleeding down on me...
I sent it back sometime around the 1st part of Nov. and still haven't recieved one to replace it with yet...
Just got a e-mail today that the newest batch's are completed and are in and will get in the mail soon...
This has been my experience so far with the WEDGE version at this time...
So I bought the newer version for my 09 S/G and as luck would have it I got one of the earlier ones off the production line...
Its instructions are not self explanitory by any means...
You do have to remove the spacers on the H-D tensioner unit and install on the SOHB unit...Don't ask me how I know...
Anyway the Tensioner seemed to be working great the shifting was so much smoother then with the H-D version...Now with this said...I had also put some Slick Trick ATF Fluid in there at the same time as well...
I keep noticing that there was like ball bearing in the inner primary...
I later learned that the tensioner wasn't holding the tension on the chain like it was supposed to do...It was bleeding down on me...
I sent it back sometime around the 1st part of Nov. and still haven't recieved one to replace it with yet...
Just got a e-mail today that the newest batch's are completed and are in and will get in the mail soon...
This has been my experience so far with the WEDGE version at this time...
Last edited by TexasBowhunter; Feb 17, 2010 at 10:08 PM.
Road Captain
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 537
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From: Chesapeake, VA.
Texasbowhunter I need more info on the, LIKE BALL BEARING IN THE PRIMARY!
(were they the steel type or just balled up whatever).
Just wondering if the ATF was too thin to hold the hydro tensioner up?
I also just purchased the 3 qt. of the B&M, slick trick ATF. But am running
the Mobil 1 ATF at this time.....Tenn.Vol.
(were they the steel type or just balled up whatever).
Just wondering if the ATF was too thin to hold the hydro tensioner up?
I also just purchased the 3 qt. of the B&M, slick trick ATF. But am running
the Mobil 1 ATF at this time.....Tenn.Vol.
Banned
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,706
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From: Woodstock, Ont , Can
Well, got mine the other day and gave it a good looking over. With plenty of experience with hydraulics, this thing is a joke. It can't bleed air, or effectively stay full. If it can't stay fully charged there is no hydraulic dampening effect where it's needed. The one I have the checkvalve is so tight new oil will never enter the piston area. It sucks air in past the piston rather than suck oil past the check valve ball. This makes it nothing more than a weak *** spring tensioner that will likely push the shoe down on long decels. The overall quality sucked, so I put it back into the box and threw it into the waisted money corner. I will now pursue making the oem unit manual adjust as the final solution. If you have one of these wedge units, good luck with it. It might sorta work, but in my view not as it should.
Ron
Ron
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Joined: Jan 2005
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From: Northern Part of the Great Lone Star State
Tenn.Vol.
The ball bearing in the primary was an expression on what it sounded like...Since the hydrolic wasn't able to keep the tension on the chain the chain slaped around inside the primary and created this sound...
I have the stock tensioner back in the bike and am running the slick trick and the shifting is an improvement over what I had in the beginning but not a smooth as it was with the SOHB tensioner...
Was the slick trick to thin? I don't know other then what I have read on the various fluids the guys are running in the primary...I don't recall if they had automatic tensioner's in there's running the B&M product...
paul
The ball bearing in the primary was an expression on what it sounded like...Since the hydrolic wasn't able to keep the tension on the chain the chain slaped around inside the primary and created this sound...
I have the stock tensioner back in the bike and am running the slick trick and the shifting is an improvement over what I had in the beginning but not a smooth as it was with the SOHB tensioner...
Was the slick trick to thin? I don't know other then what I have read on the various fluids the guys are running in the primary...I don't recall if they had automatic tensioner's in there's running the B&M product...
paul
Texasbowhunter I need more info on the, LIKE BALL BEARING IN THE PRIMARY!
(were they the steel type or just balled up whatever).
Just wondering if the ATF was too thin to hold the hydro tensioner up?
I also just purchased the 3 qt. of the B&M, slick trick ATF. But am running
the Mobil 1 ATF at this time.....Tenn.Vol.
(were they the steel type or just balled up whatever).
Just wondering if the ATF was too thin to hold the hydro tensioner up?
I also just purchased the 3 qt. of the B&M, slick trick ATF. But am running
the Mobil 1 ATF at this time.....Tenn.Vol.
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Grand HDF Member
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From: Boise Idaho
I figure for no more than it costs why not have some thing in there that keeps the chain tight all the time instead of part of the time.
It also works fine with ATF, that's what I run.
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From: Po-Dunk Looziana
Well, got mine the other day and gave it a good looking over. With plenty of experience with hydraulics, this thing is a joke. It can't bleed air, or effectively stay full. If it can't stay fully charged there is no hydraulic dampening effect where it's needed. The one I have the checkvalve is so tight new oil will never enter the piston area. It sucks air in past the piston rather than suck oil past the check valve ball. This makes it nothing more than a weak *** spring tensioner that will likely push the shoe down on long decels. The overall quality sucked, so I put it back into the box and threw it into the waisted money corner. I will now pursue making the oem unit manual adjust as the final solution. If you have one of these wedge units, good luck with it. It might sorta work, but in my view not as it should.
Ron
Ron
I bought the new(er) HD Tensioner and it actually made a notable positive difference in my primary for being a POS.
Last edited by UltraKla$$ic; Feb 19, 2010 at 06:51 PM.