Power commander V, Autotune attachment, Is it worth getting
Cruiser
Joined: Jun 2009
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I will chime in on this. I bought the power kit from fuel moto with the jackpot pipes. I also bought the pc5 with autotune. A little more up front but I figure that anything I do in the future will need no adjustments as the autotune does it for me. I also figure you will get better results over any map as the thing will fine tune itself.
Road Master
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 783
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From: Sacramento
True, with the PCV you have that versatility. I went with the autotune route and I had a PCIII and upgraded yesterday. I bought the PCIII for my 07 in late 06 (not from fuelmoto, unfortunately) when dealers in our area quit tuning and the stage 1 download wouldn't cut it. Since, I have added other pieces including cams and no canned download fit the bill. I got it reasonably close with a lot of experimenting but close doesn't cut it and there's no one around that I trust for the dyno tuning. Knowing that down the road I'm going to up displacement and have head work done, this was the way to go for me. Having just installed the PCV, you lose nothing by waiting and installing the autotune later after saving more lunch money. That's what's cool about this setup.
Tourer
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 279
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From: N. Alabama
PCV/AT is the way to go. Canned MAPS are like playing pin the tail on the donkey, where the closest one wins. My canned MAP from FM would not idle, would not hot start, mpg was in the low 30's, etc. After I ran the AT with FM's AFR's the fuel trims were up to -27 in some areas. Now with 4000 miles of fine tuning I get up to 48 mpg and bike runs great. I saved my dyno power tune from my PCIII and added it to my PCV/AT @60% to 100% throttle. I run this in open loop because the AT would change the trims in closed loop. Kind of the best of both power and economy.
PCV/AT is the way to go. Canned MAPS are like playing pin the tail on the donkey, where the closest one wins. My canned MAP from FM would not idle, would not hot start, mpg was in the low 30's, etc. After I ran the AT with FM's AFR's the fuel trims were up to -27 in some areas. Now with 4000 miles of fine tuning I get up to 48 mpg and bike runs great. I saved my dyno power tune from my PCIII and added it to my PCV/AT @60% to 100% throttle. I run this in open loop because the AT would change the trims in closed loop. Kind of the best of both power and economy.
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Jamie Long / Fuel Moto USA
The USA's Leader V-Twin EFI & Performance www.fuelmotousa.com
Contact 920-423-3309
Email jamie@fuelmotousa.com
Last edited by fuelmoto; Jan 8, 2010 at 12:00 PM.
Club Member
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From: South Carolina
If you're constantly tinkering and making mods, then having the ability to re-tune (or autotune) is important. If you're looking to achieve performance with a defined set-up, then a pre-mapped tuner is both effective, simple & low cost. I bought a pre-mapped PC-V from Jamie/FuelMoto to accommodate my true-duals & air cleaner. Took it out of the box, installed it, and rode...it was just that simple!
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Joined: Aug 2008
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From: Kingman, AZ
If you're constantly tinkering and making mods, then having the ability to re-tune (or autotune) is important. If you're looking to achieve performance with a defined set-up, then a pre-mapped tuner is both effective, simple & low cost. I bought a pre-mapped PC-V from Jamie/FuelMoto to accommodate my true-duals & air cleaner. Took it out of the box, installed it, and rode...it was just that simple!
So I will probably be calling Jamie and Fuel Moto about getting the AT.
I keep thinking I will stop but never seem to. Sometimes I take a year or so off from the motor, sometimes just a few months!
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Joined: Jan 2007
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From: Charlottetown, PE
Hey all
Received the PCV with Auto Tune from Jamie last night...fast shipping. I installed the PC V but I am struggling with the Auto Tune option. The Auto Tune comes with 18mm 02's but mine are 12mm (2010 has the new location mid pipe). What do you recommend I do? Install the 02's in the 09 position near the head? I am certainly ok with doing that however the cables are not long enough (especially the front jug) to reach to the connection point under the right saddle bag. The Pro Pipe HO only has the 12mm port at the mid pipe location...so going to 18mm would require a new port, and I am not doing that to my new pipe. Is it possible Dynojet make a 12mm 02 sensor setup?
I left my 02's unplugged and running with the supplied map that Jamie installed. Bike is running very nicely by the way, he has the map very very close.
Any advice? I e-mailed Jamie but know he is super busy...
Received the PCV with Auto Tune from Jamie last night...fast shipping. I installed the PC V but I am struggling with the Auto Tune option. The Auto Tune comes with 18mm 02's but mine are 12mm (2010 has the new location mid pipe). What do you recommend I do? Install the 02's in the 09 position near the head? I am certainly ok with doing that however the cables are not long enough (especially the front jug) to reach to the connection point under the right saddle bag. The Pro Pipe HO only has the 12mm port at the mid pipe location...so going to 18mm would require a new port, and I am not doing that to my new pipe. Is it possible Dynojet make a 12mm 02 sensor setup?
I left my 02's unplugged and running with the supplied map that Jamie installed. Bike is running very nicely by the way, he has the map very very close.
Any advice? I e-mailed Jamie but know he is super busy...