Question about cams I can't quite find answer..
Outstanding HDF Member
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From: Indiana
The HD 255 cams from what I could gather before my cam swap, "about 1/2 the time we have to install comp. releases"(Dealer Mech.)..Then you are into base gaskets and, and, and....
I know I'll probably catch hell for this but that is why I did not do 255's. Same as you I didn't want to pull the heads.(maybe)
Mark
I know I'll probably catch hell for this but that is why I did not do 255's. Same as you I didn't want to pull the heads.(maybe)
Mark
One thing to install them with the cams because some mechanic says they are needed. Another thing to do the 255 cam install in a 96 and then find out that you need them. That's the experience I'd like to hear about.
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From: Po-Dunk Looziana
Doing the math with just a 96/255 cam install, the CR should be a conservative 9.2:1 with a CCP of ~180-183 since the majority of the pistons are down in the hole a bit............I doubt you'd need CR's for this, at least I've never heard of the necessity.
I did the 255's only first w/o CR's and it fired right up everytime. TOTALLY different story when I did the 103/255.
Maybe you could wait and see how the FuelMoto Tw6 package is going to do as well. Just a thought.
I did the 255's only first w/o CR's and it fired right up everytime. TOTALLY different story when I did the 103/255.
Maybe you could wait and see how the FuelMoto Tw6 package is going to do as well. Just a thought.
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From: Wisconsin
To Save time take a pair of bolt cutters to the push rods and replace them with adjustable pushrods.By using a bolt cutter you will not leave any metal shavings behind.I have been doing this since the evo came out and it saves time.
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From: Phoenix
If you are only doing cams do all cam bearings inner and outer. If you wish to save time do the adjustable pushrods and cut the old ones out. That is the main reason to use adjustable pushrods. If you use to regular pushrods you will have to pull the heads to get them out.
Road Captain
Joined: Jan 2007
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From: Minnesota
I have the SE 255's only. No need to do compression releases if you leave it at 96. If you do the 103, you need to install compression releases as ultraclassic stated. I like the SE 255's in mine. They build a lot of torque, peak at 3200 rpm and still pretty strong at 4500 rpm. I gained about 10 ft/lbs of TQ (97) over my Stage I after the dyno tune. My HP also increased 9-10 (peaking @ 5500 rpm). With the tune, my bike runs really well. I did lose a couple of mpg I think and the bike is a little louder but it has a nice thump-ka-thump (not the true potato - you need the EVO or a lot of displacement to get that great old sound).
Fuel Moto has been doing some work on a complete package that expands their Jackpot/Air Cleaner/PCV to include cams. Here is the link to that discusson by Jamie that also includes a chart with some really good dyno numbers:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...no-charts.html
One nice things about the SE 255's is that you should be able to pick up a slightly used set fairly cheaply because a lot of folks take them out of the HD big bore packages for something bigger.
You should change your cam bearings when doing the work - Torrington bearings (about $19). I had the dealer do my upgrade and kept the stock pushrods because I didn't think I'd be doing a cam change any time soon. If you think you will, then adjustables are prob ably the route you want to go (for your next cam change).
iclick did a good write up on DIY on the SE 225 cams he went with. Do a search.
Fuel Moto has been doing some work on a complete package that expands their Jackpot/Air Cleaner/PCV to include cams. Here is the link to that discusson by Jamie that also includes a chart with some really good dyno numbers:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...no-charts.html
One nice things about the SE 255's is that you should be able to pick up a slightly used set fairly cheaply because a lot of folks take them out of the HD big bore packages for something bigger.
You should change your cam bearings when doing the work - Torrington bearings (about $19). I had the dealer do my upgrade and kept the stock pushrods because I didn't think I'd be doing a cam change any time soon. If you think you will, then adjustables are prob ably the route you want to go (for your next cam change).
iclick did a good write up on DIY on the SE 225 cams he went with. Do a search.
Cruiser
Joined: Jul 2008
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From: Flowery Branch,Ga.
Ive just installed the wood 6's in mine ultra, but I installed the whole conversion kit as well as adjustables and even the lifters since I had 18000 miles on them .
I'll get to hear how it sounds for the 1st time today but its just too cold to ride .]
the whole kit runs about 1100 bux
I'll get to hear how it sounds for the 1st time today but its just too cold to ride .]
the whole kit runs about 1100 bux
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Joined: Mar 2007
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From: Atlanta, GA
Ive just installed the wood 6's in mine ultra, but I installed the whole conversion kit as well as adjustables and even the lifters since I had 18000 miles on them .
I'll get to hear how it sounds for the 1st time today but its just too cold to ride .]
the whole kit runs about 1100 bux
I'll get to hear how it sounds for the 1st time today but its just too cold to ride .]
the whole kit runs about 1100 bux
Thanks
Cruiser
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 248
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From: Flowery Branch,Ga.
very lil wear on the lifters, I was just told it would be a good idea to change them since we already had it opened up.
they were inclluded in the kit, it had everything from gaskets to adjustables to lifters
for that price
they were inclluded in the kit, it had everything from gaskets to adjustables to lifters
for that price
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