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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 12:49 AM
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Some of the colors are hard to match to existing. The CVO paints are the hardest.They are starting to throw in a slight holograph into the paint as well.

The whites and blacks, or very dark colors are not bad and you can hide imperfections easier. The blues and reds are harder. The candy red sunglo that I'm having done is almost the worst. It was put to me.. "Like mixing food coloring and water" Then spray it too thick or too thin and it will not easily blend in.

4 painters can shoot the same piece and all 4 can ,and more than likely will, be different to a degree.

It's not such an issue as to getting the paint, it's getting it done right. This falls on the skill of the painter you hire. You get what you pay for more or less.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 01:11 AM
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a buddy of mine has a CVO Springer and did a custom rear fender due to the bike getter rear-ended. HD would not give him the paint codes and wanted him to send back the damaged fender before getting a new one. What's up with that?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LX HEMI
a buddy of mine has a CVO Springer and did a custom rear fender due to the bike getter rear-ended. HD would not give him the paint codes and wanted him to send back the damaged fender before getting a new one. What's up with that?
HD has a longstanding policy of not making CVO paint available for purchase. It's not about paint codes per se. You can buy HD paint using part nos. available from the Painted Parts catalog for standard colors.

The CVO colors are not made available except as touch-ups; presumably because HD doesn't want CVO clones out there. As for the return the damaged part policy, the dealer is subject to a heavy fine if they buy a CVO restricted part and don't return the damaged part to HD.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 02:18 AM
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harleypingman is right and the paint is not cheap either. The small little can (Pint or smaller) of my paint was close to $100Can. The activator was around $90. I'm not sure of the fine though?

My painter was willing to paint my SG rear fascia for $150 to $180 all in... including paint. I think he's using PPG or "House of Colors"

I believe the Sunglo's are considered CVO's.
Candy Red is shot on a silver base with green flecks in the paint
Crimson Sunglo is shot on a gold base with silver or yellow flecks

I'm not a painter by trade, so my crimson might be off, but luckily I was able to get one of the best in my area to do mine and he was more than willing to show me and explain it. I never even seen the green until he made me really look at it.

Hopefully, who ever paints it, will be the same way. Then fore sure you'll know you've got the right guy for the job.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 05:30 AM
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if the topcoat is a clear,you will need a mid coat,which is used to match the pearl.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 05:41 AM
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heywood, the sunglo colors (e.g. red hot sunglo, crimson red sunglo, etc.) are available from HD and there are PPG paint codes/formulas for them.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by heywood727
Some of the colors are hard to match to existing. The CVO paints are the hardest.They are starting to throw in a slight holograph into the paint as well.

The whites and blacks, or very dark colors are not bad and you can hide imperfections easier. The blues and reds are harder. The candy red sunglo that I'm having done is almost the worst. It was put to me.. "Like mixing food coloring and water" Then spray it too thick or too thin and it will not easily blend in.

4 painters can shoot the same piece and all 4 can ,and more than likely will, be different to a degree.

It's not such an issue as to getting the paint, it's getting it done right. This falls on the skill of the painter you hire. You get what you pay for more or less.
The reason you have a problem with Sunglo is because of reducer choice in most cases. Most guys painting bike parts want to use a fast reducer causing the oreintation of the flakes to be different. Using a slow reducer thru the process will help by letting the flake and pearl lay correctly. As for coverage, you are correct..reds tend to be very transparent. One way to eliminate this is use a red underneath before putting down the base or a value based system of undercoats (shades of gray) to achieve better hiding.

There are a whole list of reasons that 4 painters will have a different shade from gun set up to reduction to air pressure and the list goes on.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 07:11 AM
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I have a quart of HD Fire Red Pearl (unopened) that I can't use. My painter said he'd tried shooting HD paints before, but had problems with them drying/hardening. He even had the PPG regional rep with him. The sticker on top of the can sez to mix 4:1 with an HD part number activator. He sez all other PPG paints he shoots uses just a capfull for a pint. I'm gonna see if I can get store credit for the paint; if not, I'll re-sell on ebay or see if anyone here wants it. What's a quart go for from HD?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 08:46 AM
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A local paint store here is a PPG dealer, and can mix you what ever color you like in what quantity you want. You can buy a pint, or a gallon. They are pricey though. A pint of Vivid Black is $43, while a pint of Mirage Orange is $73. Then you have to add pearl (if its a pearl), the clear, and the activator. One can burn $150 easily on a small amount of paint, depending upon color.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PKellyMc
I have a quart of HD Fire Red Pearl (unopened) that I can't use. My painter said he'd tried shooting HD paints before, but had problems with them drying/hardening. He even had the PPG regional rep with him. The sticker on top of the can sez to mix 4:1 with an HD part number activator. He sez all other PPG paints he shoots uses just a capfull for a pint. I'm gonna see if I can get store credit for the paint; if not, I'll re-sell on ebay or see if anyone here wants it. What's a quart go for from HD?
Its been my experience to mix it 1-1.
 
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