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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 06:51 PM
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Here is a repair kit with video showing how to use them...

http://www.baercoil.com/en/instructions_baerfix.html
 

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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bagman1
Everyone here is convinced to put the slotted end in first. I disagree, go to kimballmidwest.com look up the threaded inserts and open the instruction file it says to use a screwdriver (the correct size one mind you) or use a double nutted bolt. Youre only going in 3/8-1/2" in plastic even, its not rocket science.
I went and looked at the website you suggested but couldn't find any installation instructions. If you're going to refer to a web instruction, it would be nice if you furnished a complete path or link to that instruction. Regardless, after fumbling my way through the website, I have to assume you're referring to the "wood inserts" on that website. If so, by the picture shown they are a completely different design than the Harley ones. The slot on the insert shown is on a collar of a smaller diameter than the threaded insert so they serve no real purpose other than easy installation with a screwdriver. The Harley inserts on the other hand are designed with the slot through the OD of the insert and one purpose of the slot is to aid in cutting the threads as the insert is installed.

So to reiterate what should be obvious if you have any inkling of engineering knowledge (not everyone does and that is understood)... slotted end FIRST.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 09:48 AM
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Thread-Locking Slotted Inserts for Metals







Also known as E-Z Lok inserts, these come with Loctite® adhesive on their external threads to keep them in place. The adhesive reaches full strength after 72 hours and resists pressure up to 6,000 psi.
Black-phosphate steel inserts have the strength of steel combined with a black-phosphate coating for mild rust resistance and lubricity. 18-8 stainless steel inserts have excellent corrosion resistance and may be mildly magnetic.
Install inserts in a tapped hole using a slotted screwdriver or a wrench, bolt, and locknut. To save time during high-volume installations, use a power driver (sold separately).

For those of you that couldn't find any info. Here's is what I posted on another thread.
It states you can install with a screwdriver or a dbl nutted bolt. If the rap cuts the threads why would the insert need to cut the threads? This pic happens to have lock tight on it but they're available without any in addition to inserts for wood.
 

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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bagman1
Thread-Locking Slotted Inserts for Metals

Also known as E-Z Lok inserts, these come with Loctite® adhesive on their external threads to keep them in place. The adhesive reaches full strength after 72 hours and resists pressure up to 6,000 psi.
Black-phosphate steel inserts have the strength of steel combined with a black-phosphate coating for mild rust resistance and lubricity. 18-8 stainless steel inserts have excellent corrosion resistance and may be mildly magnetic.
Install inserts in a tapped hole using a slotted screwdriver or a wrench, bolt, and locknut. To save time during high-volume installations, use a power driver (sold separately).

For those of you that couldn't find any info. Here's is what I posted on another thread.
It states you can install with a screwdriver or a dbl nutted bolt. If the rap cuts the threads why would the insert need to cut the threads? This pic happens to have lock tight on it but they're available without any in addition to inserts for wood.
I still can't find what you're talking about on that website but it appears to me you are trying to compare apples to oranges. Every insert I see on that website is a different design intended for a different application than that of repairing the HD fairing. Therefore whatever you're reading there is irrelevant to the repair being discussed in this thread.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 12:49 PM
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Whatever you say. I'm done here!
 
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Old Jul 29, 2014 | 08:33 AM
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The first time I took the front fairing off, all three inserts pulled out. I went to the dealership and bought the threaded inserts as the fix. For some reason at least one of them doesn't seem to want to hold.

This last trip to the dealership the windshield was loose, I think they tried to epoxy an insert in, but I’m not positive. They did say that if the front fairing ever has to come off again then inner fairing will probably have to be replaced.

It seems like that at least 1 of the inserts is still not holding. It just won't get tight enough to hold the windshield tight. I’m at the point that I am afraid to take the front faring off and check to see what they did and possibly how I might could fix it.

Any ideas on how to fix this without having to replace the inner fairing?

Thanks
 
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Old Jul 29, 2014 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveO
I just used JB weld on all of mine as they loosened and would not hold. All solid as a rock, cant get them to slip at all. Tried the inserts......what a pain.
Same here. Worked great!
 
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 07:44 AM
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I bought some JB Weld for plastic. I completely filled the hole then drilled it and installed the Harley helicoil. Going in it felt like this was going to fix the problem but when I stalled the screw, it just pulled out without any effort. I'm not sure how I can repair this without replacing the inner fairing. Does anyone know if they sell 1/4-20 helicoils with a slightly larger outside diameter?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Tin Man 1
I bought some JB Weld for plastic. I completely filled the hole then drilled it and installed the Harley helicoil. Going in it felt like this was going to fix the problem but when I stalled the screw, it just pulled out without any effort. I'm not sure how I can repair this without replacing the inner fairing. Does anyone know if they sell 1/4-20 helicoils with a slightly larger outside diameter?


Don't know if they're available, but a 1/4" x 20 Timesert would probably work much better than a Heli-coil. I've used them before in bigger, more heavy duty applications, and they work well...I'll let you do the research on what they're all about...
 
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 08:40 AM
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I think I was wrong when I said I put a helicoil in. I actually bought the insert that was designed to fix this issue from Harley. The Timesert looks similar, but they don't say what the OD is. If I can't find a 1/4-20 insert (whatever they are called) with a larger outside diameter, I suspect the only fix it replacing the inner fairing and I really hate to do that, $$$
 
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