PC-V stupid question
called fuel moto on this...on a 08 there is no room on top of the battery so it is supposed to go under the rt side cover..you have to remove the battery and slide the main harness plug under the rt frame rail ,then reinstall battery...tons of room for everything there..
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One person said that in another thread sometime back, but he didn't post the two maps nor any other info about them. Ever curious, I even asked him to email me the two maps but I never received them. It is possible that FM did provide a DJ map, but that would only happen if they didn't have a map for the customer's configuration, and that would be a rare event. In that case I would bet they would have explained that to him in advance, as they don't have a reputation for half-assing their services.
Go back and re-read your earlier reply. You suggested that you couldn't get a grip on cooling problems without a dyno-tune, and this isn't true. FM's tunes are plenty rich to provide optimal cooling, and the maps I've seen run 13.7-13.8:1 in the cruise range. In stock form the bikes run 14.6:1.
Further, in another reply you said that "all maps are within EPA specs due to dynojet paying out a million bucks to California for tampering with emissions control. I had to sign a release saying it was for off road use only." You obviously bought your PCV somewhere else, but the info you are getting (from your tuner?) is untrue. It is certainly untrue that the maps from FM are EPA compliant, as they certainly are not. If that bothers anyone the PCV can be set leaner for most riding, which has the side-effect of giving better gas mileage, and switch to a richer map on the fly when needed. Thus you can be EPA compliant or very close, get good mileage, and have the ability to cool the bike down at the flip of a switch. That's the approach I take and it works very well.
Go back and re-read your earlier reply. You suggested that you couldn't get a grip on cooling problems without a dyno-tune, and this isn't true. FM's tunes are plenty rich to provide optimal cooling, and the maps I've seen run 13.7-13.8:1 in the cruise range. In stock form the bikes run 14.6:1.
Further, in another reply you said that "all maps are within EPA specs due to dynojet paying out a million bucks to California for tampering with emissions control. I had to sign a release saying it was for off road use only." You obviously bought your PCV somewhere else, but the info you are getting (from your tuner?) is untrue. It is certainly untrue that the maps from FM are EPA compliant, as they certainly are not. If that bothers anyone the PCV can be set leaner for most riding, which has the side-effect of giving better gas mileage, and switch to a richer map on the fly when needed. Thus you can be EPA compliant or very close, get good mileage, and have the ability to cool the bike down at the flip of a switch. That's the approach I take and it works very well.
It's completely possible I got bad info, never said what my tuner said was gospel. Thats why I asked rather than just say that your or FM was full of ****.. Dont confuse my asking questions with saying your not right. IT's not the case..
Theres usually 3 sides to every stor and I just want to know for myself..
Mine is running one map but is set to lean out between 70 and 75mph to ragain fuel milage. Seems to work fine.. Bike runs great, cool and without the switch I look at it as one less thing to go wrong..
And if I thought you were fill of crap and only a FM Fan boy I wouldnt have told the OP to ask you.. I believe you know what your talking about. I just wanted clearer answers to my questions.
Looks like it will stay put for now under the seat, I have ABS so there is a big ABS module there under the right side cover. Any '08 owners successfully have there PCV located on the right side with ABS please post up a picture.
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, they have excellent customer support. I probably sound like a "fan boy" now.
I know mines rich. Over the last 4k miles. about 40 days. My milage is averaging 41.8mpg. I'm fine with that cause at a light I'm not doing a jig from the heat.
It's completely possible I got bad info, never said what my tuner said was gospel. Thats why I asked rather than just say that your or FM was full of ****.. Dont confuse my asking questions with saying your not right. IT's not the case..
Mine is running one map but is set to lean out between 70 and 75mph to ragain fuel milage. Seems to work fine.. Bike runs great, cool and without the switch I look at it as one less thing to go wrong..
And if I thought you were fill of crap and only a FM Fan boy I wouldnt have told the OP to ask you.. I believe you know what your talking about. I just wanted clearer answers to my questions.
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I guess at the end of the day as long as we get what we want out of it the rest is symantics.. I paid 290 for mine 300 for the Dyno run and I'm happy.. Wish I knew more about them to tweak it like you but I figure I paid the 300 and it runs great and no popping nothing. And I dont think new my bike got 47mpg.
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I guess at the end of the day as long as we get what we want out of it the rest is symantics.. I paid 290 for mine 300 for the Dyno run and I'm happy.. Wish I knew more about them to tweak it like you but I figure I paid the 300 and it runs great and no popping nothing. And I dont think new my bike got 47mpg.
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OK, I've got a question. I have the PCV,SEAC and FM Dyno Tuned Jackpots, all from FuelMoto.
I assume you're using the AutoTune for your tuning. Is there a way for me to lean/richen my AFR without special equipment? Is there a formula I can use to do this? I do not have AT.
Thanks
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Don't want to jump in here and hijack but while everyone's talking about PCV I have a question. I added a PCV w/AT on my 09' during my build and honestly had problems at first but with the help of a forum member I got things straightened out. My bike now runs excellent, no popping, pinging, and seems to run cool although it rarely gets over 90 degrees where I live. My question is that even though I think my bike is running about as good as it will, 43mpg on a 103" with cams & +4 cam gear, would a dyno tune have any benefit to me at this point? I just don't want to find out down the road that a dyno tune would've made another night and day difference.
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Next question iclick.. Does the AT raise the AFR back into EPA range? or will it adjust to the parameters preset on the PCV?
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dumb question, but doesn't the at module kinda negate the need for a dyno tune?