Riding with Idiots
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From: Fort Worth, TX
+1 that is why I like to ride at the very back of the group whenever possible
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From: Central Illinois, Between I-80 and I-74
I fail to see your logic 
They always make me lead.
We were riding north on the 5 freeway in Orance County and traffic started to back up. We began cutting traffic between the carpool lane and the lane next to it. all of a sudden I see this guy on the left side of the carpool lane splitting between the cars and a concrete wall. a car sees him and gives him some room to pass, and cuts me off. I had to lock up the rear, and the OL starts yelling at me cuz she didn't see dipshit in the other lane.
I could have killed him. I had to share that with you guys cuz it was driving me crazy and i know you guys know exactly what i'm talking about.
I could have killed him. I had to share that with you guys cuz it was driving me crazy and i know you guys know exactly what i'm talking about.
Is one preferred over the other and are both legal?
Sounds to me like the guy driving the car was at fault, if he hadn't moved over you both would have been fine.
Road Warrior
Joined: Jun 2008
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From: Southeastern Michigan
Good to hear you and your wife (and ********) made it out with no problems.
Your story reinforces why I ride alone (with wife on board), or with my close riding buds who have 30 years experience. There is one newby, but he is respectful, conscientious, and learning!
I also wont blind ride with a stranger on the road making room for me. Some might think I'm a D***, but it's my life....
Some of the azzhats I see at any biker get together, leave me shaking my head, thinking - another statistic in the making!
Your story reinforces why I ride alone (with wife on board), or with my close riding buds who have 30 years experience. There is one newby, but he is respectful, conscientious, and learning!
I also wont blind ride with a stranger on the road making room for me. Some might think I'm a D***, but it's my life....
Some of the azzhats I see at any biker get together, leave me shaking my head, thinking - another statistic in the making!
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Tourer
Joined: Jan 2010
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From: Orange County, CA
I fail to see your logic
We don't have lane splitting here and I rarely ride in heavy traffic so I have to ask. If this guy was just another motorcycle on the road and not part of your group would that have been different? Seems like there would be more space between the lane and barrier than between lanes (where you were at).
Is one preferred over the other and are both legal?
Sounds to me like the guy driving the car was at fault, if he hadn't moved over you both would have been fine.
We don't have lane splitting here and I rarely ride in heavy traffic so I have to ask. If this guy was just another motorcycle on the road and not part of your group would that have been different? Seems like there would be more space between the lane and barrier than between lanes (where you were at).
Is one preferred over the other and are both legal?
Sounds to me like the guy driving the car was at fault, if he hadn't moved over you both would have been fine.
Any other rider would have taken their place in the back of the line. No one ever rides on the outside of the carpool lane, especially if there are bikes splitting on the other side.
The safest place to slpit is between the car pool lane and fast lane. there are 2 double yellow lines about a foot apart and this creates the most space, about 5 feet at times between cars. Most people split there and never on the outside of the carpool lane. That is where the most debris is found, and there is often a concrete barrier and only 2-3ft of space.
The guy in the car was doing what most cars here do in heavy traffic when bikes are splitting, give some extra room to the bike. He just didn't hear me cuz i don't have a radio.
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2008
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From: Salt Lake City, UT. Dushore, Pa.
I guess it would make sense to let him lead, but in the past he has failed in the lead position too. guess i'm screwed either way with this guy. I think you guys are right. I should not ride with him any more.
Any other rider would have taken their place in the back of the line. No one ever rides on the outside of the carpool lane, especially if there are bikes splitting on the other side.
The safest place to slpit is between the car pool lane and fast lane. there are 2 double yellow lines about a foot apart and this creates the most space, about 5 feet at times between cars. Most people split there and never on the outside of the carpool lane. That is where the most debris is found, and there is often a concrete barrier and only 2-3ft of space.
The guy in the car was doing what most cars here do in heavy traffic when bikes are splitting, give some extra room to the bike. He just didn't hear me cuz i don't have a radio.
Any other rider would have taken their place in the back of the line. No one ever rides on the outside of the carpool lane, especially if there are bikes splitting on the other side.
The safest place to slpit is between the car pool lane and fast lane. there are 2 double yellow lines about a foot apart and this creates the most space, about 5 feet at times between cars. Most people split there and never on the outside of the carpool lane. That is where the most debris is found, and there is often a concrete barrier and only 2-3ft of space.
The guy in the car was doing what most cars here do in heavy traffic when bikes are splitting, give some extra room to the bike. He just didn't hear me cuz i don't have a radio.
Last edited by gmc; Aug 10, 2010 at 02:49 PM.
Cruiser
Joined: Nov 2007
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From: phoenix,az
yikes, i'd tell the freak to to watch what the hell he's doing! if he wants to kill himself thats dandy but he need's to realize he's not the only guy on the road. a inconsiderate motorcycle rider (over agressive )is just as bad as a person i a car with thier head up their ***! just my ..02 glad nothing bad happened to you..
Cruiser
Joined: Apr 2007
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There is an even distribution of "A" Holes in this world across all walks of life...that include people riding motocycles. Just returned from a road trip and while going down the interstate in the middle of SD I see 3 bikes pulling a U turn from the other side of the interstate in front of me. The first 2 made the turn far enough in front of me, then the 3rd one tries to hurry up to keep up with is buddies and almost went down makeing the turn right infront of me. I had to hit the brakes and swerve to the next lane to avoid rear ending him.
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