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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 12:27 AM
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I don't get the whole "HOG" thing. If your dealer is closing & you're losing your "clubhouse", can't you still go on group rides together? Or do you just HAVE to wear a HOG patch to be able to get together & ride?
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 05:35 AM
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The economy is a big $hit sandwitch that we all have to eat. I bought a Harley because its American made and supports the American economy. Times are tough and people are having a hard time buying things like new HD's. Thats why the dealerships are closing. If the funds arn't comming in, how can HD support non-profiting buisinesses. Get out and vote this November if you care about change in this country and the freedoms our veterans have paid blood for. Just my two cents.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 05:57 AM
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Closing of dealers is a business decision not a personal one. I would think members are what makes up a HOG chapter, not a dealer. Grant it, it's nice to have the support of a local dealership and access to accessories and service but a closed dealer shouldn't deter the camaraderie of a well organized HOG chapter.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 06:02 AM
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After 3 years i didn't renew my HOG membership....AMA membership gives me the roadside assistance and i feel AMA does more for the Motorcyclist.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 06:59 AM
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Lot of opinions here.....Which is a good thing...

We did form our own riding club, so that's not the issue.....

For the current active HOG members on here, I think you get my point....

For the others, what's that saying, If I have to explain it, you wouldn't understand...

If the MoCo would respond to at least one letter, good or bad, it would go a long way in our books.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 07:00 AM
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I remember going to a meet n greet for new owners when I bought first HD in 08. I liked the discount but all the "family" talk never set right. Kept national HOG membership a couple of years for the mag and towing but let that go this year.

Love HD's, wife and I both ride our own. Not a fan of the HOG family/groups so can't share that pain. Others before have said it, get your group together and ride. You don't need the permission of a vehicle manufacturer to bond together and ride.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 07:06 AM
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Each HOG chapter has a HOG regional manager. Did you reach out to him? I'm guessing you have the same guy we have. He's the person I'd have spoken to about this since I doubt the MOCO will even read your letter. It's his job to take your complaints to the MOCO.

That being said, I wouldn't be as jammed up about it as you are. Create your own riding group and move on. And if anyone EVER believed the MOCO nonsense about being a "family", well...........
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 07:35 AM
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Interesting - Very Interesting.......
If this issue is in regards to how poorly the national and international HOG organizations are being administered than I agree entirely; if it's about failing STEALERSHIPS then I say - You brought it on yourself with poor quality, terrible engineering and overpriced product; in other words GREED!
All one has to do is READ the publications that are published by the "national HOG" organizations. I have NEVER read such gribbish; like what's published in these magazines, anywhere else. Anybody read the article about how to prepare for meeting "game" on the road - absolutely UNBELIEVABLE!
At one HOG event; we had a NATIONAL Director FLY in, TAXI to the event, participate (eat) the evening meal, tell everyone how GREAT HOG is and then admit to the attendess she had never ridden a motorcycle and that this was her 1st time attending such an event, left by taxi, stayed at a 5 star hotel and flew out the next morning.
This is the NEW HOG leadership.
And with this type of leadership and direction; "You expect what to happen?"
ONLY when you as a HOG member DEMAND a stop to this type of nonsense will HOG become better.
It up to us to change it......

Ride In Peace
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 08:02 AM
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well i have to say i spent the lousy 45.00 per year this year after having my membership lapse. then i spent another 90.00 for me an the wife to attend the hog rally in new jersey.no one to blame but myself i didnt know to much about it, but im not going to blame anybody or cry about it . what i will say is the rally sucked to say the least . the wife and i love to just go to different events and enjoy what they have to offer love walking through all the vendors just to see whats new.love the rides to and from i am not a member of the local chapter never felt the need but i will say, after this hog rally and seeing everybodys comments looks like im not the only one not happy.when my membership expires thats it for me i will spend my HARD EARNED CASH ON SOMETHING WORTHWILD. GOOD LUCK TO THE OTHER MEMBERS. ride safe
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by HDV-GLIDE
Lot of opinions here.....Which is a good thing...

We did form our own riding club, so that's not the issue.....

For the current active HOG members on here, I think you get my point....

For the others, what's that saying, If I have to explain it, you wouldn't understand...

If the MoCo would respond to at least one letter, good or bad, it would go a long way in our books.
As a fellow Hog Member, I understand your frustration. Even though the Dealerships are individually owned, I think the MoCo has a responsibility to it's customers. This letter should not have needed to be written. The MoCo should have contacted members up front. That being said, I think a lot of Dealer problems are self inflicted. I have a large number of Dealers within 150 miles of me. I travel around and stop in to chat. You almost get different stories and advice from each Dealer. I have one Dealer within 10 miles that all I buy is oil filters because of their attitude. When you go in the door, there's no welcome. You have to practically wait on yourself. I started to ask the cashier one day, if I get a discount for waiting on myself. I love my Harley and will continue to ride until I can't.
 
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