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More torque....quicker of the line.
 
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Originally Posted by SugsPa
What is the difference between torque and horsepower, and what benefits do each bring to engine power? Could you put that in layman's terms for the mechanically challenged, such as myself.

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We seem to have covered pretty well every way of describing these as you requested! Has it helped?

Essentially you only get horsepower once you have torque. As sgdiesel said, at the most basic level Power = Torque x RPM. Torque is the twisting force the engine applies to the driving wheel and the more of it you have the faster it will accelerate the rotation of that wheel.

So torque gets you off the line from standing still and accelerates you ever faster. But the faster you go the more rolling and wind resistance you experience and that requires power to keep you moving. As the torque accelerates you to ever higher speeds, the more power you need to overcome those resistances.

There comes a time when the resistances are so great the engine can no longer accelerate you and you achieve maximum speed. Most Harleys have stock gearing that their maximum speed is pretty low and acceleration is also poor. Reducing ovedrall gearing can improve both significantly, which is probably the most ignored way of improving Harley performance.
 
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Horsepower is how fast you can go and Torque is how deep!
 
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Originally Posted by grbrown
We seem to have covered pretty well every way of describing these as you requested! Has it helped?

Essentially you only get horsepower once you have torque. As sgdiesel said, at the most basic level Power = Torque x RPM. Torque is the twisting force the engine applies to the driving wheel and the more of it you have the faster it will accelerate the rotation of that wheel.

So torque gets you off the line from standing still and accelerates you ever faster. But the faster you go the more rolling and wind resistance you experience and that requires power to keep you moving. As the torque accelerates you to ever higher speeds, the more power you need to overcome those resistances.

There comes a time when the resistances are so great the engine can no longer accelerate you and you achieve maximum speed. Most Harleys have stock gearing that their maximum speed is pretty low and acceleration is also poor. Reducing ovedrall gearing can improve both significantly, which is probably the most ignored way of improving Harley performance.
Originally Posted by dawg
Horsepower is a measure of power, torque is turning force. Think of it this way, horsepower is what lets you fly down the highway easily at 85-90 mph and torque is what gets your fat *** carrying your passenger off the line at a red light.
Dash, possibly the best explanation of this I have ever seen. Technical is great, simple is better.
 
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Dash, possibly the best explanation of this I have ever seen. Technical is great, simple is better.
Dawg, sorry I butchered your name - auto spell check.
 
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Torque is what makes you hang on leaving the light, horsepower gets you there faster.....
 
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Well heres the way I learned way back in trade school. Torque (turning force usually measured at the flywheel or also at the ground) is what you feel, and makes the vehicle move. Horsepower make the flywheel turn, the more horsepower you make the faster it makes the torque, which moves the vehicle faster.
 
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And isn't torque more of a lower RPM thing, with HP more of a higher RPM thing?
 
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Originally Posted by springer 03
Torque gets you up to speed. Horsepower keeps you there. At least that's what I was told.
+1 yeah, what he said......
 
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Originally Posted by qtrracer
High dyno tq numbers are a warm blanket that most guy's cling to when arguing about who's bike is the fastest by comparing dyno sheets. Horsepower is what wins that race in the real world, a real race, not roll on in 6th gear at 50 mph.
The Twin Cam is a torque engine and Harley's are all about torque.
 


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