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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 09:53 AM
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Now that almost all gas contains some Ethanol, has this caused anyone any troubles? Do additives need to be added? The reason for the question is I recently had a friend that had the liner in the tank start peeling and caused all kinds of trouble. Could this be due to the Ethanol or something else?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 10:07 AM
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I use Shell 93 octane, no ethanol, no doubts.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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How old was the bike? This should happen on newer bikes. Biggest issue is that the efi bikes with the narrower band sensors might have problems if the eth jumps above 10%, but should be fine at 10%. Also, gas with eth can drink up water and cause problems. So use fresh gas and use gas stabil or such for winter storage.

In Portland area, it is illegal to sell gas without eth and it sucks. Seems to run fine, but we lose 3-4 mpg.

Older bikes can have severe fuel system issues, esp any rubber.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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In my area its very hard to find gasoline that does not have ethanol so I do run it some of the time. Has not caused any trouble as the bikes are built to handle ethanol. Only thing I do notice is a slight drop in fuel mileage on the highway. There probably is a very slight drop in performance also but am unable to feel it in any way.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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Bike was an 2002 with carb. Bike had rust in tank and we found the liner was peeling. This was causing the rust and liner pieces to get into the carb and causing it to overflow.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by GarboHD
Bike was an 2002 with carb. Bike had rust in tank and we found the liner was peeling. This was causing the rust and liner pieces to get into the carb and causing it to overflow.
Sounds like that tank has problems that were not cause by ethanol. If old fuel sat in the system and turned to "varnish", ethanol will loosen it up an then it will clog filters, jets, injectors depending on what the bike has.
To say that ethanol caused the problems is a bit of stretch IMO.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jackthebiker
I use Shell 93 octane, no ethanol, no doubts.
I went to Shell's website and there was no mention of the 93 octane being ethanol free. I'd be psyched to find that was the case cuz I live in massachusetts and all our gas has ethanol in it.

I'm interested to see what's going to happen now that the Prez has ok'd the 15% ETHANOL GAS
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 12:11 PM
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I have noticed no problems using E10 in this bike. There are three stations in the metro area that sell eth-free high-octane gas, according to pure-gas.org. I've checked two of them and their prices far-exceed the 3% reported hit in gas mileage I'll suffer using E10 gas--15-20% higher. Of course E10 also stifles performance, so maybe I should try some for a comparison. OTOH it isn't practical to depend on so few stations, as most of the time I'm nowhere near them when I need gas. So, I just use the E10 and struggle along.
 
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All of our gas in Virginia has 10% ethenol added to it. I've not had any problem with any of the bikes. I have used reg gas for the last 2 years with no problems as well.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 12:29 PM
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Didn't HD stop coating inside tanks back in ~2005? My 2010 SG looks to be bare steel inside and so does my wife’s 2009 Nightster and I have a spare 2007 sporty tank on the self and it looks to be bare steel also? Here in Colorado ALL gas from the pump has Ethanol in it for the past 5 plus years, it goes up in % in the winter. I have 7k on my SG with zero problems accept for a MPG and HP decrease when winter gas mix is used. When I store my bike I add a fuel stabilizer to fight the water content of the ethanol.

BTW, each state has it own rules on what gas mixture they use (% of Ethanol and other additives)
 

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