Finally! K&n filter for s/e ventilator air
Road Warrior
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+1 on this question......about to have my bike tuned adding new V&H Power Duals and a Ventilator to the existing Rinehart slip ons. It's hard to imagine that the filter would make a big of enough difference that I would want it on my bike instead of the stock filter doing that tune. I would think I could just throw it on there after the fact with no big deal.
Why all the fuss over this filter?
Why all the fuss over this filter?
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Well guys I just got back from the dealer, and had a new rear tire, rear brake pads put on and maintenance service on the motor. Along the the K&N filter installed.
I really didn't get on it too much. From my butt dyno, I felt a difference. The main difference is a paper filter vs a real filter designed to catch all the tiny particles. I can truly say that you can really hear the throttle body open up more and suck up more air. I could not hear that with the paper filter.
In short, K&N makes a great product. I am pleased w/ it, and just knowing that I don't have that paper filter on my scoot is good enough for me.
YELLOWBIRD
I really didn't get on it too much. From my butt dyno, I felt a difference. The main difference is a paper filter vs a real filter designed to catch all the tiny particles. I can truly say that you can really hear the throttle body open up more and suck up more air. I could not hear that with the paper filter.
In short, K&N makes a great product. I am pleased w/ it, and just knowing that I don't have that paper filter on my scoot is good enough for me.
YELLOWBIRD
Well... My dealer actually kind of talked me out of the K&N today. The stock filter isn't paper, it's a polyester type fiber media, similar to oil filter type media. If it was paper it certainly wouldn't be washable. The K&N might breath better but is it actually filtering better? I see a couple of you had dirty throttle bodies with the stock element. K&N's are known to let smaller particles through until it has been used/filtered a little bit. Maybe the extra suction of air intake might equal larger filter micron openings for particles? I guess I'm playing devils advocate here as my last four bike filters have been K&N elements and the Ventilater is my first polyester type filter (not to be compared with paper). The MoCo already does use K&N filter media in many of its SE air filters. They certainly could have initially used it in the Ventilater. Maybe they now offer it as a replacement alternative in lieu of a performance alternative? I'm still on the fence here. 
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Road Captain
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My understanding from talking to both K&N and the regional HD folks is that the reason moco didn't have K&N for the Ventilator is that the two have been negotiating a strategic agreement where K&N will become an official OEM supported part for all hd engines. That agreement has just been signed. All things equal, an oiled filter is the best alternative if dirt capture is paramount. Military vehicles worldwide depend on them. I'm certainly not knocking the apparent quality of the Poly filter on my Ventilator because it has stood up well to rain and washing and still looks new, but I'd prefer to have it oiled. My new K&N arrives on Tuesday. Dirt cheap considering it'll last for years.
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LP,
Here you go. Not the best photos, not much light in the old garage and it's from the
cell phone. But I think you can get the idea.
Mfuchs & Troop,
I do agree, I'm not trying to trash the stock paper (polyester type) air filter either. It has lasted almost two years. I'm just very happy with K&N air filters. Like I mentioned in my first post, I have K&N's installed on all my motors.
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LP,
Here you go. Not the best photos, not much light in the old garage and it's from the
cell phone. But I think you can get the idea.
Mfuchs & Troop,
I do agree, I'm not trying to trash the stock paper (polyester type) air filter either. It has lasted almost two years. I'm just very happy with K&N air filters. Like I mentioned in my first post, I have K&N's installed on all my motors.
YELLOWBIRD
Here you go. Not the best photos, not much light in the old garage and it's from the
cell phone. But I think you can get the idea.
Mfuchs & Troop,
I do agree, I'm not trying to trash the stock paper (polyester type) air filter either. It has lasted almost two years. I'm just very happy with K&N air filters. Like I mentioned in my first post, I have K&N's installed on all my motors.
YELLOWBIRD
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You resurrected a thread from 2011 to tell us this?
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