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Old May 3, 2011 | 12:33 AM
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I will say that after i did the shims it took a few miles for the oil to get into every nook and cranny and coat all the upper valvetrain and it seemed to get more and more quiet as i rode. I am still riding like i did b4 and this thing is super quiet now. I do notice that if i open her up i hear a little chatter on decel and idle but once the oil cools it gets back quiet as b4 and it is never as loud as it was. Like i said earlier it seem like the tick tap and chatter is a combination of a few things but most of the sound I was getting is gone completely once i did these shims. Please post more results guys we will get this thing licked soon.
 
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Old May 3, 2011 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sbergerson
The front cylinder was .16. I shimmed the front to .05.
I hope you missed an extra 0 on your numbers, if you had .16 of play you need new rocker arm supports.

I did this last weekend and it quiet the bike right up. Still have slight valve train noise but not near the racket I had before. I measured my end play at .016 to .013. Installed the shims on all 4 rocker arms and measured the play at .006 to .005
 
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Old May 3, 2011 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by fireaxxe
I will say that after i did the shims it took a few miles for the oil to get into every nook and cranny and coat all the upper valvetrain and it seemed to get more and more quiet as i rode. I am still riding like i did b4 and this thing is super quiet now. I do notice that if i open her up i hear a little chatter on decel and idle but once the oil cools it gets back quiet as b4 and it is never as loud as it was. Like i said earlier it seem like the tick tap and chatter is a combination of a few things but most of the sound I was getting is gone completely once i did these shims. Please post more results guys we will get this thing licked soon.
Mine is quiet when cold, but after I get hot it's noisy. I did find one arm on the rear cylinder exhaust at the upper limit .019 and shimmed it down to .004. I rode it 3k miles after shimming so I'm certain it had plenty of time to get oil in the system. I'm currently thinking I didn't get the oil pump aligned quite properly and may have scored it. I'm going into the cam chest this weekend.
 
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Old May 3, 2011 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FX4
Mine is quiet when cold, but after I get hot it's noisy. I did find one arm on the rear cylinder exhaust at the upper limit .019 and shimmed it down to .004. I rode it 3k miles after shimming so I'm certain it had plenty of time to get oil in the system. I'm currently thinking I didn't get the oil pump aligned quite properly and may have scored it. I'm going into the cam chest this weekend.


Man sorry to hear that, I wonder if there is a way to tell for sure by checking the oil pressure once its warm you should see a drop with a mechanical gauge. Your symptoms sound like an oil flow problem.
 
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Old May 3, 2011 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fireaxxe
Man sorry to hear that, I wonder if there is a way to tell for sure by checking the oil pressure once its warm you should see a drop with a mechanical gauge. Your symptoms sound like an oil flow problem.
I have good oil pressure. What is leading me to go after the oil pump is air bubbles in the oil. Other than one chattering rocker, which I'll bet was the .019 rocker my bike was quiet prior to the cam upgrade. I honestly don't recall aligning the oil pump so I'm thinking this is the issue.
 
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Old May 3, 2011 | 04:07 PM
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my 09 started tapping around 5k, made me feel at home, because it sounded just like the 05 EGC I had. Sure would like to quite the tapping
 
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Old May 3, 2011 | 04:52 PM
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Curious, what type of oil are you guys using?
 
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Old May 15, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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BTW: I found my noise, it's a pushrod rubbing against the tube when it gets hot. I can the marks on the pushrod plain as day. I'm trying a set of Wood lifters to see if they hold things a bit tighter.
 
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Old May 15, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FX4
BTW: I found my noise, it's a pushrod rubbing against the tube when it gets hot. I can the marks on the pushrod plain as day. I'm trying a set of Wood lifters to see if they hold things a bit tighter.
What can you do to fix this?

Was it the stock push rods that were rubbing?

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Old May 15, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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Replace the tubes and use a lifter that doesn't bleed down. My best guess is one of two things. Either I'm not getting the rocker arm assembly quite centered (there is a lot of slop) or the tubes are a bit worn from being on and off a few times. A lifter like the Wood Nightprowler doesn't bleed down so it should hold the pushrod in position better. It's not the solution to every noise but I'm pretty sure it will help solve my problem.
 
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