Codes after new Apes install
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Codes after new Apes install
I've searched the forum and still have to ask this question. I just finished installing my 14" Wild Ones and have codes 1015, 2127 & 2138. I have read a lot about these three codes causes and cures. My bike is running fine yet the codes are still there. I have done the procedures to clear the codes I found in my searches, but still have the codes. Do I have to take it to the dealer and have them clear them and am I risking damage riding the bike with the codes and check engine light present? Oh, by the way my cruise is not working.
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I forgot to add during the install I started the motor without the TBW and console wires connected. I wanted to make sure it started before I went any farther. My thought is the TGS codes were thrown because no TBW was found. Could that also cause the 1015, limited power code?
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I know this thread has been dormant for four years but hoping someone sees this and can chime in. I changed bars and have the same exact three codes listed here. Based on my searching it seems like its likely the TBW needs to be replaced with the new TBW for internal wiring (32310-08). Can anyone tell me if this is the case or is there likely a short as the previous user said? Or probably both?
Also, is there any harm in riding with these codes until I can get it fixed? I took note the code P1510 is limited performance. Anyone have any thoughts?
I'm going to try to check the green plug on the TBW if I can without tearing the whole bars apart. Seems to be the common theme through all the other threads on this issue
Also, is there any harm in riding with these codes until I can get it fixed? I took note the code P1510 is limited performance. Anyone have any thoughts?
I'm going to try to check the green plug on the TBW if I can without tearing the whole bars apart. Seems to be the common theme through all the other threads on this issue
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I know this thread has been dormant for four years but hoping someone sees this and can chime in. I changed bars and have the same exact three codes listed here. Based on my searching it seems like its likely the TBW needs to be replaced with the new TBW for internal wiring (32310-08). Can anyone tell me if this is the case or is there likely a short as the previous user said? Or probably both?
Also, is there any harm in riding with these codes until I can get it fixed? I took note the code P1510 is limited performance. Anyone have any thoughts?
I'm going to try to check the green plug on the TBW if I can without tearing the whole bars apart. Seems to be the common theme through all the other threads on this issue
Also, is there any harm in riding with these codes until I can get it fixed? I took note the code P1510 is limited performance. Anyone have any thoughts?
I'm going to try to check the green plug on the TBW if I can without tearing the whole bars apart. Seems to be the common theme through all the other threads on this issue
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I know this thread has been dormant for four years but hoping someone sees this and can chime in. I changed bars and have the same exact three codes listed here. Based on my searching it seems like its likely the TBW needs to be replaced with the new TBW for internal wiring (32310-08). Can anyone tell me if this is the case or is there likely a short as the previous user said? Or probably both?
Also, is there any harm in riding with these codes until I can get it fixed? I took note the code P1510 is limited performance. Anyone have any thoughts?
I'm going to try to check the green plug on the TBW if I can without tearing the whole bars apart. Seems to be the common theme through all the other threads on this issue
Also, is there any harm in riding with these codes until I can get it fixed? I took note the code P1510 is limited performance. Anyone have any thoughts?
I'm going to try to check the green plug on the TBW if I can without tearing the whole bars apart. Seems to be the common theme through all the other threads on this issue
You are spot on. They are not clearing because you are still having an issue with TCA and/or the TBW Plug.
The only other possibility is that you may have to disconnect plug behind the air cleaner, spray it with electrical contact cleaner, apply a very light coat of dielectric grease, and reconnect.
However, it is most likely that the codes are being caused by mismatched voltage (0-5v) from your TBW-TCA. Even if the green plug appears to be intact on its exterior, the slightest concussive stress and/or twisting, crushing etc will cause its internal pins to misalign and fail, thus causing your codes.
I bet you a Ham Sandwich your most likely resolution would be to replace the "Green Gremlin" with the HD Extended TBW/TCA Assembly. $105 and a few tears...Your best best is to get the HD Extended TBW assembly that eliminates the green plug altogether.
Hope it all works out for you.
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Thanks for the reply Juan. I knew in the back of my mind that the $105 was probably the outcome but wanted to hear it from someone else before biting the bullet. You're right there will be a few tears, both from the $$ and the fact I have to tear the bars all back apart to run the new TBW.
The green plug did come apart once when I pulled a little too hard pulling the wires, but never thought it could be so easily damaged. Lesson learned I guess.
Thinking I might just ride it for the rest of the summer as-is and do it this winter, unless you think I'd do damage somewhere else by doing so? Ideally I would do it right now, but my schedule simply wouldnt allow it.
My thought would be it'll just run at less than perfect until I put the new one in. I've ridden it a few times since and nothing major seems to be affected unless I really cram it. Definitely doesn't feel as responsive.
The green plug did come apart once when I pulled a little too hard pulling the wires, but never thought it could be so easily damaged. Lesson learned I guess.
Thinking I might just ride it for the rest of the summer as-is and do it this winter, unless you think I'd do damage somewhere else by doing so? Ideally I would do it right now, but my schedule simply wouldnt allow it.
My thought would be it'll just run at less than perfect until I put the new one in. I've ridden it a few times since and nothing major seems to be affected unless I really cram it. Definitely doesn't feel as responsive.
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You don't need to spend the 105 bucks. Just cut the green plug out and solder the wires directly together. This is what I did when I damaged the green connector on my SG when I put my apes on. Make sure you know what wire goes to what on either side of the plug though. There are two separate bundles. One in a black shrink wrap, and one in a yellow shrink wrap. Inside each bundle, there is a black wire, a blue wire, red, yellow etc (my colors may be off, it's been a while). Do NOT cut both the black and yellow shrink wrap off at the same time. Do the black on either side of the connector, then the yellow on either side of the connector. If you cut them both off, you won't know which black wire goes with which black wire on the other side. Very confusing to explain...but you'll see what I'm talking about.
Once you get the damaged connector out of there, you will be able to clear the codes.
FWIW...if you ride the bike like it is, you will not have cruise, and the bike will probably intermittently go into parade mode. I couldn't abide that so I had to fix it.
Good luck.
Once you get the damaged connector out of there, you will be able to clear the codes.
FWIW...if you ride the bike like it is, you will not have cruise, and the bike will probably intermittently go into parade mode. I couldn't abide that so I had to fix it.
Good luck.