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The cat is exceptionally high flowing. Ceramic car cats use 50% of the space. The very tough and thin corrugated cats can be flattened to way less than 10% of the volume that they are in.
Most can not detect any change in the exhaust when the cats are removed because the flow is virtually the same.
Not disputing the fact that the cat is high flowing but there was definitely a detectable difference in the sound of my 10 UC when I gutted the cat with stock mufflers. Not a big difference but quite noticeable none the less. The volume was a slightly louder and the tone was a bit deeper. It sounded pretty damn good. If I hadn't decided to go stage 1, I could have lived with the stock mufflers after the cat removal. The real benefit from gutting the cat was the reduction in temperature on the right side.
Not disputing the fact that the cat is high flowing but there was definitely a detectable difference in the sound of my 10 UC when I gutted the cat with stock mufflers. Not a big difference but quite noticeable none the less. The volume was a slightly louder and the tone was a bit deeper. It sounded pretty damn good. If I hadn't decided to go stage 1, I could have lived with the stock mufflers after the cat removal. The real benefit from gutting the cat was the reduction in temperature on the right side.
I hate to point out the obvious, but sound and power aren't necessarily related.
Where do I get my CATS removed?? Will my local HD dealership do this? We don't have a lot of bike mechanics in my neck of the woods...and its not something I would want to tackle! How much $$$ does it usually cost to remove them and install whatever tuners/stage 1, etc...that I would need?
Sure.....keep in mind though...you are holding the heat in....and that heat will transfer back onto the engine....the more heat the engine has, the more timing the computer will pull out to avoid detonation, and the less power you will have.
I whole-hardheartedly blame the government for the excess heat and discomfort due to their overburdening the consumer with their environmental restrictions.
I'm right there with ya brutha. Nov. 2012 can't get here soon enough.
With all due respect...I find that hard to believe...Just the fact that the bikes with a cat is so much hotter than a bike without a cat is an indication that they are restrictive...Look at the picture Texas fatboy posted...How can that not be restrictive?
A catalytic Converter is made of metals. It is made to NOT restrict flow but needs to heat up to work. Until it heats up it is almost useless. Once the metals heat up the cat starts functioning coverting the bad emissions into the acceptable ones exiting your exhaust. All that being said, now you have a mass of heated metal and not just free flowing gases that tends to stay hot longer and tends to also be more noticable. taking out that added sound barrier will also help with a bit more throaty sound. There won't be huge gains, but there will be some. Personally, I would do this more for the throaty sound than just the small HP and Torque gains I've seen claimed.
A catalytic Converter is made of metals. It is made to NOT restrict flow but needs to heat up to work. Until it heats up it is almost useless. Once the metals heat up the cat starts functioning coverting the bad emissions into the acceptable ones exiting your exhaust. All that being said, now you have a mass of heated metal and not just free flowing gases that tends to stay hot longer and tends to also be more noticable. taking out that added sound barrier will also help with a bit more throaty sound. There won't be huge gains, but there will be some. Personally, I would do this more for the throaty sound than just the small HP and Torque gains I've seen claimed.
I do realize how the catalytic converter works...I know that it was not put there to restrict the flow...My point is that it is restrictive and how can you deny that it isn't.
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