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Old Sep 28, 2011 | 04:23 PM
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Yes, that's what I was thinking. And I say that because the bike ran like a scalded dog before, and now it run's ok but not like before. The compression seem's to be way down, and I say this because I can now run 89 octane without pinging. Next tank will be 87 octane, just to see if it pings. I also forgot to metion that I have a t-max auto tune and since the rebuild I have gone through 10 +degree's of timing and still can't get it to ping. I know that pinging is not good, but I am trying to find the sweet spot in the timing and with a 10+ degree change I thought I would have been there by now.
The rods are not your problem. In your original post, you referred to a "complete motor rebuild". What is the difference between the rebuilt motor and the original?

Run a compression test and post the results.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2011 | 06:49 PM
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builder say's nothing was changed. I am going to do a dyno pull to compare. It was at 99 horse 107 torque. dyno don't lie. Some indy's however makes me wonder. I think a compression test is a good idea, but all it's going to tell me is what I already know. It is a 107 with a reaper 574 cam. street port heads.
 
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I also forgot to metion that I have a t-max auto tune and since the rebuild I have gone through 10 +degree's of timing and still can't get it to ping.
It is a 107 with a reaper 574 cam. street port heads.
That is not the problem that I have had with a T-Max. Getting rid of the pinging is. I would say that it sounds like your compression is down. The camshaft you have closes at 45 degrees which isn't bad. You say the heads are street ported. Did you cc the chambers? Sometimes they use tulip valves which add volume to the compression chambers. It is possible to end up with chambers in the 92 - 95 cc range. Stock is 84-86. That drop in compression can knock the hell out of your performance. The difference in cold cranking compression is 195 psi for a 85cc chamber to 175 psi for a 95cc chamber.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by vbx07
builder say's nothing was changed. I am going to do a dyno pull to compare. It was at 99 horse 107 torque. dyno don't lie. Some indy's however makes me wonder. I think a compression test is a good idea, but all it's going to tell me is what I already know. It is a 107 with a reaper 574 cam. street port heads.
Pull a compression test; that will tell you more than another dyno pull. Once you know the compression numbers, you can start working out the problem. That motor should pull another 10TQ/10HP.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by djl
Absolutely the crank pin location; rods are both 7.667".
Cool. Thanks for the info.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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ftanner the crank determins the stroke it does not matter what lenght the rods are the rods will not change the stroke
 
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 09:17 PM
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The crankpin on a tc96 is moved 3/16" further out on the flywheel (closer to the outside rim). That's a radius measurement, double that to get the 3/8" longer stroke of the tc96.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 05:30 PM
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So my research was correct! I took my scoot in for a base gasket leak to the builder that built my motor. Now I have said from the beginning that I thought he may have put the wrong crank in my 07 sg, but I was told it more than likely was not the case. Well I get a call from the builder and he say's your bike's going to be down for awhile. So I ask why? He proceed's to tell me that he installed a 88" crank in my 107 motor! The first thing I said to him was " So I guess I knew what I was talking about when I first asked. He apoligized and said he will make it right. That mean's we are sending out a 4 3/8 stroke crank to revolution performane to get welded, plugged and trued. Then once it comes back from them, it's time for some head porting. Then I will have a bullet proof motor to whoop on! WHOOOOPEEEEE!!
 
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06 dyna cranks and 07 dyna and touring cranks are from what I am told interchangeable. It would be possible to put a 06 88" dyna crank in an 07 touring bike and also put the pistons in.....It would have very little compression though.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by redrubicon2004
06 dyna cranks and 07 dyna and touring cranks are from what I am told interchangeable. It would be possible to put a 06 88" dyna crank in an 07 touring bike and also put the pistons in.....It would have very little compression though.
06 dynas were 96", they were the guinea pigs
 
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