Except it's STEALING

 

Yes, by stealing it. Because when someone follows your alternate path, they are stealing a product someone took time and effort to produce.

I, OTOH, can't abide thieves.

 

You told them they could steal it. Quit trying to sugar coat it, you are pegging out the BS meter.

So letting people decide to steal is fine with you, eh? Hopefully you will hold that thought should any thieves pay you a visit... but I doubt it. Probably squeal like a stuck pig if it happened to you.

Tom

 

I'm not sugar coating a thing

You fellas sure are opinionated now lets talk facts.

It's not as clear cut as you are acting like. There is a considerable amount of debate and confusion regarding the sharing of intellectual property.

For instance, if I buy the video I can legally lend, sell, or give it away according to copyright law. Its called the "First-Sale doctrine" you can google it or click here for a rudimentary description.

So that means if a group of 10 people buy one copy they can legally lend it around until everyone has seen it. Also, as the owner of it you can legally make a copy for yourself. But, when you give it away you technically need to give the copy also or destroy it. So at the end everyone has a seen the video and it is 100% legal to do that.

"internet piracy" of video is simply the same concept writ large over a large group of geographically distant people. However, the concept is the exact same and is by no means an open/shut case of "theft"

At one point the video was purchased and then the owners made a choice to give it away

In fact, as it relates to videos specifically, in 2007 US courts rules in favor of NEBG v Weinstein upholding "First-Sale Doctrine"

You can choose to side on the original producer side of the argument but lets not pretend there's not an argument to be made here.

The problem when it comes to lending computer files like torrents is that technically uploading or downloading creates a copy. Distribution of copies is what is illegal under copyright law. However, its splitting hairs really because say i own a copy of the video on my computer that i bought. I could give it to someone on the internet by sending it to them and as long as I destroy my copy it is legal. If I forget and leave it on my computer it is now copyright infringement.

Going back to my initial example, I think its ludicrous to trying to make the argument that there's something fundamentally different between 10 people lending each other the video one at a time and all 10 people watching the video separately but at the same time. Its intellectually dishonest to draw that arbitrary line in the sand.

The laws are still fuzzy and open to interpretation regardless of what the MPAA and RIAA would have you believe.

 

The essence of riding like a pro is look where you want to go, apply some rear brake while slipping the clutch. Then with practice you to can make a perfect illegal U turn on any street. How often does one need to do that?

The trail braking is good to use for high speed cornering as it loads the front tire more.

All the videos with officers going through courses is interesting. But in real life the skill needed is high speed cornering. It is related somewhat to the slow speed cornering just without the clutch burning.

 

Dude: STFU If you download the video without paying for it you stole it. End of story. Nothing you say or come up with will change that fact; so unless you can get the Motorman himself to come on here and tell us its okay to use a torrent site to download his work you're full of it.

 

No thanks I won't STFU as you so eloquently put it. Its not fact its your opinion.

Copyright law and law in general is a fluid thing that is subject to change and interpretation.

Also, it wouldn't be theft anyway it's a violation of the producer's copyright. That's a big difference.

But I digress, to paraphrase Mark Twain I clearly shouldn't try to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man

 

Actually, copyright law is pretty straight forwards. If you download it without paying for it, if it is for sale then you are in violation. If you provide it to others in a sharing medium there is precedent to penalize the poster. Just look at the case of the woman in Michigan who the music industry went after for posting music and she was found liable for over a million. Stealing is stealing. If someone made it and is selling it and the license doesn't provide for you to share then you are stealling.

 

If you think skilled low speed handling is just for making illegal u-turns, then no amount of explanation is going to get through to you at all. Enjoy the other planet you are occupying.

I have to do this every day just to get in my garage. Perfectly legally I assure you. And in a thousand other places in normal day-to-day riding too.

Tom

 

IT IS NOT THEFT

I'm not trying to claim that its not copyright infringement according to some interpretations of it. Only that its arbitrary and subject to change.

If a public library can own one copy of a video and lend it to 100,000 people over the course time exactly how is that different from those 100,000 people downloading the video?

The reality is that its not different except in the most arbitrary of ways

100,000 people got something for which they did not pay that someone else has for sale.

And before you say "libraries have dues" or "tax revenues support them" or whatever. Replace library with someone with 100,000 contacts who pass the video around. 100% legal

Think for yourselves gentlemen