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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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Is it resonable to expect that the CB's SWR will be properly set from the factory on a new Ultra?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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Default RE: CB question: SWR set from the factory ?

Considering how difficult it would be to get an SWR meter between the fairing and antenna, and the very small amount of play on the antenna, I would say consider it good. Mobile systems, especially on bikes with a crappy ground plane, don't transmit that far anyway.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Considering how difficult it would be to get an SWR meter between the fairing and antenna, and the very small amount of play on the antenna, I would say consider it good. Mobile systems, especially on bikes with a crappy ground plane, don't transmit that far anyway.
Agreed - but then again, I make no assumptions when it comes to bikes being properly setup at time of delivery. If it ain't chrome, it probably isn't going to get any attention from the minimum wage wash jockeys prepping the bikes. I would be surprised if most HD techs even understood what SWR is.

I'm not so worried about the actual CB range - as you said,the essentially non-existent ground plane of a bike limits radio performance. My concern is that the factory/dealer just sticks the antennae on without any tuning and you end up with SWR ratio high enough to damage the finals in the CB. The last time I messed with CB radio was back in the '70sand I spent a lot of time hanging out in a local radio shop.It was very common to have radios brought in that were fried due to improper antennae installation/tuning.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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I hear you. I seriously doubt that there is any tuning of the antenna of the CB or AM/FM radio antennas. Radios these days have built in overload protection to protect against most anything, short of (pun intended) a shorted coax. Even transmitting into an unloaded coax doesn't cause any damage. Best you can hope for is that they remember to hook up the antenna (usually done at the factory) and don't crimp the coax. Best test is to take her out , go to 19 and ask for a radio check. I'm sure you know the drill.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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Default RE: CB question: SWR set from the factory ?

That's what that large plate in the tourbox is, a ground plane..
You could theoreticily adjust SWR's by trimming mast... but the meter WOULD be
tough to connect, the HK Radio may have this built in..

I tried to use the CB on the 06 Ultra I had and it never worked..
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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Default RE: CB question: SWR set from the factory ?

The SWR has to be set at the time the bike is put into service (PDI), by the dealership Sevice Staff....

FWIW, it is a requirement of the set-up procedures......

And yes, it is a PITA...... As the outer fairing must be removed....
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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The SWR has to be set at the time the bike is put into service (PDI), by the dealership Sevice Staff....

FWIW, it is a requirement of the set-up procedures......

And yes, it is a PITA...... As the outer fairing must be removed....
So let me get this straight... a minimum wage "tech" who probably can't even spell SWR is tasked with removing the fairing, setting the SWR to the lowest possible setting across the entire 40-channel band, reinstalling the fairing and doing this in the least amount of time possible - and more than likely doing this while surrounded by a steel frame building and lots ofmetal objects in close proximity. And this will be the same "tech" who argues with me that a Dyna does in fact hold 4 quarts of oil. (Long story, don't ask.)
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 07:21 AM
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Default RE: CB question: SWR set from the factory ?

The SWR cannot be set at the factory. The bikes are shipped without the antenna attached. Depending on how far the shaft is placed into the mount affects antenna tune or SWR. On my 07 Ultra. The very first thing to fall off was the cb antenna. The day I picked it up. I would make sure it is locked down tight and forget about it. The cb's are not good for much but bike to bike communication when group riding anyway. JMHO
 
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Default RE: CB question: SWR set from the factory ?

I guess you need to find another Service Dept......

The techs that do the PDI's at the shop that I work at are the experienced ones, that use manuals and tools, that know how to set it up......

Don't be compiling ALL techs into some catagory of "Minimum Wage"... Sounds like it's a welfare job the way you present it......

Customers like you that feel that Techs are there for their bidding.....

Do yourself a favor, invest in the proper tools and associated hardware and do all of the work yourself.....
 
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Just curious. The dealer here replaces the whip antennas with the flexible
stubbies. Can the swr be reset on the stubby?
 
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