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Well, those are amazing figures to get 31k out of motorcycle tire. I don't know, I must be doing something wrong because I don't get anything near those figures. I do change my tires a bit early I must admit, but I sure wouldn't feel comfortable riding on tires with that kind of mileage.
Ha, and I may run my tires a little longer than most. Many a rider has had a failure on a relatively new tire, so if one has lasted 30k and still isn't at the wear bar I feel pretty safe with it. Biggest reasons to replace early are riding in rain and they get noisier, it doesn't rain much here in New Mexico.
When discussing things like lighter sidewalls I think there is some confusion between the sidewalls being made out of newer lighter materials and the capacity of the sidewall to carry weight.
On Dunlop's website they give load ratings. (I assume other manufactures do as well.)
An example for a front and rear OEM 2008 SG;
D402 MT90B-16 front tire LOAD/SPEED 72H MAX LOAD @ 36 PSI 783
When discussing things like lighter sidewalls I think there is some confusion between the sidewalls being made out of newer lighter materials and the capacity of the sidewall to carry weight.
On Dunlop's website they give load ratings. (I assume other manufactures do as well.)
Good point. I have heard similar comments about 'lighter' construction directed at Avon tyres. Most if not all manufacturers make their tyres to specific load ratings and applications. The Harley market is like a magnet and all brands I have looked at make 74 and 77 rated tyres corresponding to MT and MU sizes, and they are catching up with the latest touring model sizes.
The load rating is the same on C2's as it is on Dun407's
C2 180/65B 16 L/R 81H 1020# @42psi
Dun 180/65B 16 L/R 81H 1019# @42psi
140 mph.
In these times, lighter does not mean weaker. I am going to try a set of the Commander 2's soon. I'll let you know at the end of the year how it goes.
Followed this thread with interest. I just ordered a new set of Dunlop D402's for my Ultra. I have been averaging 15K front/8K rear on OEM's. I went with the 402's again because they are a known quantity. The D402's are all my motor unit has used in the 14 years I've been riding police bikes. I have ridden in every conceivable weather/road condition on these tires, and have never experienced failure. Also I KNOW how they handle, so at this point I don't want to change horses in mid-stream.
That being said I'm not adverse to change, but need more information before making a change on something so vital to safety and handling as tires. The mileage of 15/8K is dissapointing, true, but not out of line with what others have been getting, regardless of brand. Perhaps there will be more threads about tires before the next time I need to replace tires. In the absence of solid information and feedback convincing me otherwise, I'll stick with the OEM Dunlops.
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my .02 my 07 ultra has the E3's on it. I got about 36000 on the front getting ready to put a MCII on the front. The rear I am getting roughly 16-18K on. that is in all riding conditions that I hit. as soon as the rear is ready I will be putting the MCII there. These tires have not been out long enough to have full reviews just sort ones.
Well, those are amazing figures to get 31k out of motorcycle tire. I don't know, I must be doing something wrong because I don't get anything near those figures. I do change my tires a bit early I must admit, but I sure wouldn't feel comfortable riding on tires with that kind of mileage.
Terrabella, your right. Most people are getting many more miles out of their tires than you. Just for the heck of it, have you ever measured the tread depth when you take the old tires off? 18-20k miles for rear 407's and 25k for front 408's is not uncommon at all. I will be changing mine out again soon and this time I am going with the Dunlop American Elites which cost a whole, whole lot less than the ***** house price that the franchised dealers sell their Harley-Davidson branded tires. Dunlop says it is the same tire without the HD branding and a little different tread pattern.
Followed this thread with interest. I just ordered a new set of Dunlop D402's for my Ultra. I have been averaging 15K front/8K rear on OEM's. I went with the 402's again because they are a known quantity. The D402's are all my motor unit has used in the 14 years I've been riding police bikes. I have ridden in every conceivable weather/road condition on these tires, and have never experienced failure. Also I KNOW how they handle, so at this point I don't want to change horses in mid-stream.
That being said I'm not adverse to change, but need more information before making a change on something so vital to safety and handling as tires. The mileage of 15/8K is dissapointing, true, but not out of line with what others have been getting, regardless of brand. Perhaps there will be more threads about tires before the next time I need to replace tires. In the absence of solid information and feedback convincing me otherwise, I'll stick with the OEM Dunlops.
I rode about 300 miles of NC and TN twistys last week on MC IIs that had about 700 miles on them. To date, they are the most stable, sticky tires I have ever had (I've had a few)...I can only speak for the 09 and later size. They replaced Dunlop American Elites that had 19,000 mile....they replaced the OEM Dunlop 407/408s that had 18,500 mile...2010 FLHTC...
Terrabella, your right. Most people are getting many more miles out of their tires than you. Just for the heck of it, have you ever measured the tread depth when you take the old tires off? 18-20k miles for rear 407's and 25k for front 408's is not uncommon at all. I will be changing mine out again soon and this time I am going with the D
unlop American Elites which cost a whole, whole lot less than the ***** house price that the franchised dealers sell their Harley-Davidson branded tires. Dunlop says it is the same tire without the HD branding and a little different tread pattern.
You can get the Michelin Commanders for even a little less.
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