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Well Gentlemen, I concur. After a good test ride I will be going back to stock fork oil also. Way too stiff of a ride. Bike handles like ****. I bought the E fork oil today and will be changing it tomorrow. Bike seems to be all over the place and I'm sure it's because the heavier oil isn't letting the suspension work properly.
edit: My origional post was for KCFLHRC
Curious as to how big a boy are ya? Lol. I am at 250lbs and have considered switching to a heavier oil to alleviate some of the dive. I have had it even bottom out once. a few years ago I bought some bellray oil for a set of rear shocks I rebuilt with good results. What is the weight of the SE oil? How much is required total and what's the cost at dealer? I've also considered ordering the progressive lowering kit so I might wait. By chance are you in Kansas city area?
Curious as to how big a boy are ya? Lol. I am at 250lbs and have considered switching to a heavier oil to alleviate some of the dive. I have had it even bottom out once. a few years ago I bought some bellray oil for a set of rear shocks I rebuilt with good results. What is the weight of the SE oil? How much is required total and what's the cost at dealer? I've also considered ordering the progressive lowering kit so I might wait. By chance are you in Kansas city area?
Hey brother, yes, I live in the K.C area, Spring Hill Kansas to be exact. South of Olathe about 10 miles. I weigh in about 225 and I'm 6'. I think the SE Heavy is around a 15w but I'm not for sure. MY RK takes 11 oz per side. I found an old unopened bottle of Fuch's Silkolene 10w oil I might try. I had heard the stock is around a 7w. You in the K.C. area?
I heard it's a 10w. Harley calls it E Fork Oil, it's in the service manual too.
Harley late model touring bikes come from the factory with E type (5 weight) oil in their Showwa Japanese front forks. Unless the fluid has become contaminated early, it does not need to be changed at 5, 10, 15 or 20,000 miles. I believe the manual recommends changing at 50k miles. Keep in mind that the Showwa factory does not use the same fluids they use in the states for front shocks. The Jap OEM fluid stinks to high heaven and has a propensity to be very black in color. These properties are not indicative of fluid quality. I believe the Jap fluids use a fish oil base instead of petroleum base stock.
I went with 15w Bel ray I think next time I might go with 20w or a mix of 15w and 20w. It really does help with the brake dive. So far pretty happy with it.
Just for ****'s and grins I went with 9 oz of E Type and 2 oz of SE Heavy. Bike rides great. Not sure what the 2 oz of heavy did for me but I wanted to be different.
Can you guys be a little more specific. How has the heavier oil made the ride worse, other than making it more stiff? How is the bike handling, in the curves, on concrete or grooved roads, does the bike wobble at high speeds, why is it worse?
Can you guys be a little more specific. How has the heavier oil made the ride worse, other than making it more stiff? How is the bike handling, in the curves, on concrete or grooved roads, does the bike wobble at high speeds, why is it worse?
I used the SE Heavy (not Extra Heavy Racing) for my first oil change, which was an improvement over original. Handling was better with no bottoming and although ride was a bit firmer I didn't consider it harsh. For the second change I decided to try Dawg's suggestion of mixing the SE Heavy with Type E (stock) 50:50, and I like it better. Ride is a bit better while control and handling isn't compromised, so this is likely what'll stick with for the future.
BTW, here have been a few tutorials posted here on doing the change on a fairing bike. Here's one I did a few years ago (Scroll down to Post #23).
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