blowing them out
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Ha... I love reading these posts about our wonderful gas now days and how efi never carbons up the combustion chambers etc etc... some people have all the luck!!!
Apparently I live in an alternate universe... the gas they ship over to me... sucks.
A local BP Shell what ever name brand.. only has to buy so much of the brand name gas to be able to run under that brand name.. the rest of the time if they want to they can get the cheapest crap they can find that meets the epa rating for that area.(i.e. around here from May to Sept we have low sulfur gas to help meet the epa air quality).. which usually means junk, bottom of the barrel gas with ethanol.. not highly refined top of the line gas with special woop te doo detergents. (trying to get our motor pool supervisor to ask the guy that delivers our gas to see if he knows the exact amount of brand name gas, if he finds out I'll edit this and post it)
In my vehicle, I have gotten gas at the exact same station from the exact same pump, filled up to the brim two Wednesdays in a row.. driven the exact same route the exact same way.. one week would get 23mpg.. the next would get 20.
In 95 I had a brand new Jeep WRangler.. 2.5 4cyl..... same year I moved to Milton, FL a little nothing town... within a month of buying the local gas, my Jeep clattered it's way down the road... until you mashed the gas to get up a hill, then it sounded like the pistons were trying to swap holes... had to run heavy doses of cleaner in it.. it was a 4cyl so didn't have much choice but to run the crap out of it to get it to go. All the vehicles I've had since then I run the cleaner through before it gets problematic, and yeah, I romp on them at least once a week too.
Move ahead to 03... back in Alabama since 96... bought a 03 VTX 1300..(first big street bike) after a while, I would notice that when I got into a pull it would clatter.. time to dose it with cleaner... ride the next tank full out (and yeah I "played" on that one all the time) it would blow out the build up and run quite for another couple of months then time to do it again...
Then 07 bought my Street Glide.. after a while same thing.. got the clatter when in a pull, time to dose it with cleaner.. run it, get it hot then blow it out a couple of times.. it would run quiet for a couple of months....
At work with my fleet trucks all gasoline v8s easing around downtown.. stop and go then stop some more.. then ease around (you get the sequence here) all right above idle because you really can't get on it then stop the next block... these things will get so carboned up that they clatter along sounding like a pea thrasher and the catalytic converters will get completely stopped up and have to be replaced.... sometimes I will catch it before it gets that bad and "dose it" with my own blend of cleaner... then ease it around town to make sure the cleaner has gotten blended in the tank.. hit the interstate and pull them down to second gear and put it to the floor... it will sound like the pistons are trying to run for their lives for a second then there will be a puff of soot that comes out of the tailpipe that mimics a worn out logging truck.. do it a couple of times and it cleans up and runs quiet... (I've tried just dosing it and letting the crews have them back... it doesn't de-carbon them... have to take it out and run it.)
The small equipment we have is the same way.. it will get carboned up and I'll have to run cleaner through it at a higher than normal operating rpm (I don't trust them to bypass the governor themselves.. they will sling a rod instead of blowing it out)... big puff of soot....
weed eaters and blowers...... the same thing........ big plus on those is I get little sparks of carbon flying everywhere when I run them up past normal operating rpm.. (adds a little light show to the soot puff)
This supposedly great gas we have now with the ethanol.. I have had to replace more carbs and gas lines on the small equipment.
Our motor pool that services the entire organization's fleet constantly has to replace fuel pumps and filters and run cleaner in the tanks when they do the yearly services.
If you never run a cleaner and go past normal operating rpm, there is never enough extra gas/ detergent/air mixture to change the temperature of the burn in the combustion chamber and loosen up the carbon or enough air velocity to move carbon to keep from piling up.
It's your money, spent on your bike, to make you happy, do as you wish..........I'll keep on running my cleaner and hit some rpm here and there on my bike to blow it out.
Ha wow... that turned out to be longer than I thought it would.... oh well... my rant is over now.......... LOL
Apparently I live in an alternate universe... the gas they ship over to me... sucks.
A local BP Shell what ever name brand.. only has to buy so much of the brand name gas to be able to run under that brand name.. the rest of the time if they want to they can get the cheapest crap they can find that meets the epa rating for that area.(i.e. around here from May to Sept we have low sulfur gas to help meet the epa air quality).. which usually means junk, bottom of the barrel gas with ethanol.. not highly refined top of the line gas with special woop te doo detergents. (trying to get our motor pool supervisor to ask the guy that delivers our gas to see if he knows the exact amount of brand name gas, if he finds out I'll edit this and post it)
In my vehicle, I have gotten gas at the exact same station from the exact same pump, filled up to the brim two Wednesdays in a row.. driven the exact same route the exact same way.. one week would get 23mpg.. the next would get 20.
In 95 I had a brand new Jeep WRangler.. 2.5 4cyl..... same year I moved to Milton, FL a little nothing town... within a month of buying the local gas, my Jeep clattered it's way down the road... until you mashed the gas to get up a hill, then it sounded like the pistons were trying to swap holes... had to run heavy doses of cleaner in it.. it was a 4cyl so didn't have much choice but to run the crap out of it to get it to go. All the vehicles I've had since then I run the cleaner through before it gets problematic, and yeah, I romp on them at least once a week too.
Move ahead to 03... back in Alabama since 96... bought a 03 VTX 1300..(first big street bike) after a while, I would notice that when I got into a pull it would clatter.. time to dose it with cleaner... ride the next tank full out (and yeah I "played" on that one all the time) it would blow out the build up and run quite for another couple of months then time to do it again...
Then 07 bought my Street Glide.. after a while same thing.. got the clatter when in a pull, time to dose it with cleaner.. run it, get it hot then blow it out a couple of times.. it would run quiet for a couple of months....
At work with my fleet trucks all gasoline v8s easing around downtown.. stop and go then stop some more.. then ease around (you get the sequence here) all right above idle because you really can't get on it then stop the next block... these things will get so carboned up that they clatter along sounding like a pea thrasher and the catalytic converters will get completely stopped up and have to be replaced.... sometimes I will catch it before it gets that bad and "dose it" with my own blend of cleaner... then ease it around town to make sure the cleaner has gotten blended in the tank.. hit the interstate and pull them down to second gear and put it to the floor... it will sound like the pistons are trying to run for their lives for a second then there will be a puff of soot that comes out of the tailpipe that mimics a worn out logging truck.. do it a couple of times and it cleans up and runs quiet... (I've tried just dosing it and letting the crews have them back... it doesn't de-carbon them... have to take it out and run it.)
The small equipment we have is the same way.. it will get carboned up and I'll have to run cleaner through it at a higher than normal operating rpm (I don't trust them to bypass the governor themselves.. they will sling a rod instead of blowing it out)... big puff of soot....
weed eaters and blowers...... the same thing........ big plus on those is I get little sparks of carbon flying everywhere when I run them up past normal operating rpm.. (adds a little light show to the soot puff)
This supposedly great gas we have now with the ethanol.. I have had to replace more carbs and gas lines on the small equipment.
Our motor pool that services the entire organization's fleet constantly has to replace fuel pumps and filters and run cleaner in the tanks when they do the yearly services.
If you never run a cleaner and go past normal operating rpm, there is never enough extra gas/ detergent/air mixture to change the temperature of the burn in the combustion chamber and loosen up the carbon or enough air velocity to move carbon to keep from piling up.
It's your money, spent on your bike, to make you happy, do as you wish..........I'll keep on running my cleaner and hit some rpm here and there on my bike to blow it out.
Ha wow... that turned out to be longer than I thought it would.... oh well... my rant is over now.......... LOL
Last edited by RoadGlidinFreak; Aug 24, 2012 at 10:20 AM.
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I think you should run her up to about 7500 rpm for about 5 minutes to 'clean her out real good'. You'll have to figure out how to bypass the rev limiter but once you've done that you'll have a free revving power monster for sure.
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