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Harleys starter issues. technical explanation why so many fail

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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by skratch
is that what the dealer said? the starter for the 96 is the same as for the 103. same stock number since 06.
Yes that is what the dealer said.

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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by lh4x4
Have 8 HD's. Ride them all over North America. Never had a starter go.

Much of the article is BS. Not a single HD TC is "high performance". Stock they are all low compression and mild cams. Never experienced "dieseling" ever.

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I will suggest that the article had more opinion in it than any technical fact. Calling a motor "high performance" is connotative and not fact or technical. Giving a compression ratio, cam lift and duration is denotative and not opinion but technical fact.

The only good thing is the suggestion to add a compression release.

If you have starter replacement problems look at all the electrical connections. I have found the positive cable to the starter very loose from the factory and of course it is hidden under the rubber boot. The ground cable has also been a problem for proper torque.
You might have noticed that he is not referring to stock motors when he addresses high performance. He states that stock compression is in the 150 PSI range for EVOs and 160 PSI for TCs. He also refers to "early" aftermarket ingition systems; '06 and later wouldn't fall in that category. I personally have a friend with an '01 Heritage that is running about 215 PSI cranking pressure and one of the early aftermarket ignition systems. He ripped teeth off of several ring gears before adding compression releases. So what is in the article is not BS, it just doesn't appy to what you happen to ride.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 12:21 PM
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I'm going to big note my 09 TC 96, probably going with s&s 106. What is maximum compression ratio if no compression release. Or, at what ratio do I need a release?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 12:25 PM
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Sorry for the typos. Meant "big bore."

Auto-spell on my phone is annoying.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by c50plus
I have to put a new starter every two years on my Ultra. When it starts to fail
it is hard to start the bike when hot. I found this article in the link below. It
seems the guys knows his stuff. What do you think?


http://www.americanrider.com/output.cfm?id=1022005
you sure it's your starter and not the battery?

I thought my starter was going bad last year but it turned out to be my battery ( it was only a couple years old). The high florida heat kills them quicker. The battery in my suv only lasts about 3 years. It sits out in the sun at work. My 06 RK has the original starter and it works fine.
 

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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 07:01 PM
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Re read the article and still find that he refers to "twin cam compression chambers" as the problem. I do not see any clear concise reference through out the article that he is specifically discussing modified twin cam motors as the problem with starter motor failure.

The clear reference is to simply twin cam HD motors have high starter failures and that is false.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 07:23 PM
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all ***** starter clutch.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 07:33 PM
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Can't help but wonder how many "failed starters" are really just the starter clutch being hammered to death by the weak compensators bottoming out generating a tremendous shock load on every start.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 07:34 PM
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My starter clutch is currently wrecking havoc on my bike.

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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 08:20 PM
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IMO, the OEM starter that came with my Low Rider was just simply too weak, it could barely spin the motor enough to get it started. After a few months of screwing around, I put in an aftermarket starter and starting problems went away (although I had other issues with that brand starter for other reasons) but I won't go with another OEM starter again.
 
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