Not that CITCO makes HD oil has much to do with anything although it could depending on your feeling in that area, I have chosen the Redline products, could has went with Amsoil, Mobil 1. I'm please with the products and have had no problems to report. I'd suggest picking one and just sticking with it and avoid the long oil bashing threads as long as you are happy with what you have chosen. Avoid the threads/products that claim to have all the "Truth", or papers publish by themselves, or have chosen to ignore other products.

 

100% virgin olive oil is not a good choice then???

 

how do you devirginise an olive by the way???

 

Excellent choice for frying, especially if you want to fry your bike.

 

Not sure about the olive, but I've got the oil covered.

That would be oil that has not been used, once used it is no longer a virgin. Soooooooooooooooooo, once you fry your bike using the 100% virgin olive oil, that oil would no longer be virgin.

 

First, let me say I am not an Amsoil dealer. Now let me say this. All of their independent tests specificly name the other oils tested (none of this "the other leading brand crap"). You can best believe the results are accurate or there would be some major lawsuits againts Amsoil.

 

You want oil? Redline - 20W50 in the crank, shockproof Heavy in the trans, MTL in the primary. There you go. The problems of the world are now solved.
Ride safe............

 

First, oil isn't religion...or shouldn't be. No oil is a silver bullet or a panacea, and there are a number of excellent oils available, including Amsoil.

Amsoil's tests and claims have always been suspicious at best. About ten years ago when I was researching oil to determine my next brand of choice, I found some errors and hyperbole on Amsoil's site and in their testing procedures. Their tests are always under the supervision of "independent labs," but you know little else about the conduct of the tests, and they are never verified by other sources. I've never seen a test by an independent lab not on the Amsoil payroll who found Amsoil to be the best in all or even most areas, although it is usually an above-average performer. Check Motorcycle Consumer News, a publication that takes no advertising and conducts oil tests from time to time. American Iron magazine also has done less-detailed tests on various brands and types of oil, both synthetic and fossil.

Unlike most people, I've actually seen a wear-ball test conducted with Amsoil, Royal Purple, M1, and several other high-quality oils, and the RP won the test handily, taking more weight and maintaining lubricity for minutes after the oil flow was removed. An Amsoil rep responded by saying the test used was "too tough," and that level of friction would never be seen in an engine. My retort was that if it performed well in such an environment, it would perform equally well in a real-life situation where oil-pressure was lost and would be reflective of friction reduction in a normal environment. If a lubricant can perform in an environment of extreme friction, it will perform on scale in an environment with less friction. He didn't have an answer to this comment, and wouldn't accede to a wear-ball test conducted in person--nor would he agree to witness a repeat of the test I had seen by bringing his own samples.

I've researched oil to a fault over the years and as a result I am still no expert, but I do know there are some fine products available. Oil technology has progressed in multiples over the years and I don't think anyone will go wrong selecting any of the usual suspects in the oil game, like Mobil1, Amsoil, Royal Purple, Redline, etc. If my last bike endured 106k miles on Brand X without engine problems or evidence of wear, which it did, would it do better with Brand Y? If so, how much, and how can that be quantified? I don't think it can.

When asked about oil, I usually provide a list of major players and suggest that the inquirer select an oil from that field that satisfies two criteria: price and availability. For most people M1 is the best choice using those parameters. You can buy M1 at any Walmart in any city in America for about the lowest price of any high-quality synethic. If your Harley lasts for 150k miles without requiring major work, will Amsoil's quality allow you to go further? If so, how much further? Nobody knows, so why are some on these threads proclaiming that Brand Z is best when they've never seen any tests performed on that oil and have never engaged in any practical tests to provide evidence for the alleged superiority?

If Amsoil's tests are false, why don't other manufacturers file charges against them for fraud? I suspect it is because Amsoil, who maintains a small following of very ardent and zealous fans, is not a big player in the grand scheme of oil marketing. Along with Royal Purple and Redline, they are what I refer to as

 

Hmmmm...........a truly interesting dilema. How does one pop an olives cherr.............errrr pit??

Outlaw

 

Sorry, I haven't seen an Apple commercial yet that names Dell or any other computer manufacturer by name. If they did, there might be a lawsuit!