Sert vs tts?
Road Warrior
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From: Vancouver Island, British Columbia
I would imagine both are pretty close to their functionality, TTS probably has a slight edge. If you are getting a dyno operator to tune your bike, buy whatever he is comfortable using, many told me that before I bought the TTS. However I don't think it's user friendly at all. I won't even attempt to get my bike running properly now that I've put quieter mufflers. The once perfect dyno tune is out the window now and the limited parameters of the TTS can't adjust to get the bike so it cruises smooth any more. Also, it is a lot more money but many like the Thundermax, it CAN adjust for changes down the road.
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From: Indiana
http://www.dynojet.com/powervision/
There are thousands of posts on it here.
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Have you considered the Power Vision?
http://www.dynojet.com/powervision/
There are thousands of posts on it here.
http://www.dynojet.com/powervision/
There are thousands of posts on it here.
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From: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
The whole process is not for the faint of heart REGARDLESS of which device you use. You have to understand what you're doing before you can even remotely think you know how to use a tuning device
you could have simply stated that you preferred the Thundermax because it's plug and play (easy for most to understand) and there's nothing wrong with that. What's wrong with this is bashing any product you've not learned how to use properly.
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PV
I like this power vision. I like the idea of the onboard monitor for tuning. I ran a laptop in a backpack to tune with my TTS. They call it Vtune runs. I did this about 15 times. A few of those times my battery died in the laptop and i never knew. With the power vision you have the monitor right in front of you.
PV has a second license available I think.
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There's not a dimes worth of difference between tuning the TTS or SEPST. They both have auto tune now and unless the latest TTS has improved their graphics, the SEPST has way superior graphics to view. The biggest benefit with the TTS is that you can change speedo settings for different gearing or tire sizes.
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Road Warrior
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From: Vancouver Island, British Columbia
I agree
I agree
The whole process is not for the faint of heart REGARDLESS of which device you use. You have to understand what you're doing before you can even remotely think you know how to use a tuning device
To each his own, but your loss if you're leaving any power on the table.
I lost 10tq and 5 hp by changing mufflers, same dyno different day obviously.
man what are you smoking? There are GREAT tuners out there that will treat their customers like their best friend. The trick is (and has always been) finding one you trust and more importantly one that does in fact know how to tune properly. You have to make the effort to find one in order to reap the benefits of having a good tune.
I found a great tuner, one that is comparible to Doc IMHO and like Doc a nice guy to deal with! It had a good tune better than anyone could imagine, I messed it up by changing out the mufflers it was originally dyno'd with. The TTS obviously can't make up for the change and I'm not smart enough to figure out the 150+ page manual plus I don't smoke ANYTHING!
you could have simply stated that you preferred the Thundermax because it's plug and play (easy for most to understand) and there's nothing wrong with that. What's wrong with this is bashing any product you've not learned how to use properly.
I agree
The whole process is not for the faint of heart REGARDLESS of which device you use. You have to understand what you're doing before you can even remotely think you know how to use a tuning device
To each his own, but your loss if you're leaving any power on the table.
I lost 10tq and 5 hp by changing mufflers, same dyno different day obviously.
man what are you smoking? There are GREAT tuners out there that will treat their customers like their best friend. The trick is (and has always been) finding one you trust and more importantly one that does in fact know how to tune properly. You have to make the effort to find one in order to reap the benefits of having a good tune.
I found a great tuner, one that is comparible to Doc IMHO and like Doc a nice guy to deal with! It had a good tune better than anyone could imagine, I messed it up by changing out the mufflers it was originally dyno'd with. The TTS obviously can't make up for the change and I'm not smart enough to figure out the 150+ page manual plus I don't smoke ANYTHING!
you could have simply stated that you preferred the Thundermax because it's plug and play (easy for most to understand) and there's nothing wrong with that. What's wrong with this is bashing any product you've not learned how to use properly.
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Cruiser
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From: GA
Thanks for the info! I was originally going to go w/ the thundermax but a Pro tuner said the wide band O2 sensors were too slow compared to the narrow band O2 sensors. Not sure if thats true or personal opinion... I'm leaning towards the TTS tuner. PV looks good too. I like the abiloty to tune w/out a the use of a dyno!