OK so I'm not so bright
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 6,129
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From: Santa Cruz
Really? You guys think the stock FM map is as good as it gets, autotune is better than a dyno and/or there is no reason to improve either on a dyno? While I agree there are few good dyno tuners out there, a good one can for sure improve performance, mileage and heat over a canned map or autotune. You guys will spend 1-3K on stage 1 and not get a proper tune? Penny wise - pound foolish.... imho
Road Captain
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 540
Likes: 3
From: Nooga, TN
From my experience, the FM maps are close. That being said, I installed auto tune and it made significant changes to map. The bike ran good before, but now it runs fantastic. With the auto tune permanently installed it will auto adjust for air temp,humidity, bad or good gas, etc to maintain proper a/f ratio. FM's map was good, but I love auto tune
If he is willing to rent you auto tune and tweak the map for your bike, I would say do it. Every bike is different and therefore FM's map will be very close, but not right on for your ride. I highly recommend permanently installing auto tune. It is great and has more features than I can discuss in a short period of time.
If he is willing to rent you auto tune and tweak the map for your bike, I would say do it. Every bike is different and therefore FM's map will be very close, but not right on for your ride. I highly recommend permanently installing auto tune. It is great and has more features than I can discuss in a short period of time.
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Grand HDF Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,599
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From: Lansing mi
From my experience, the FM maps are close. That being said, I installed auto tune and it made significant changes to map. The bike ran good before, but now it runs fantastic. With the auto tune permanently installed it will auto adjust for air temp,humidity, bad or good gas, etc to maintain proper a/f ratio. FM's map was good, but I love auto tune
If he is willing to rent you auto tune and tweak the map for your bike, I would say do it. Every bike is different and therefore FM's map will be very close, but not right on for your ride. I highly recommend permanently installing auto tune. It is great and has more features than I can discuss in a short period of time.
If he is willing to rent you auto tune and tweak the map for your bike, I would say do it. Every bike is different and therefore FM's map will be very close, but not right on for your ride. I highly recommend permanently installing auto tune. It is great and has more features than I can discuss in a short period of time.
I'm a bit surprised how many feel I should just leave it alone. I don't race my bike but I do drive a bit aggressive, I do a lot of passing in the 50-70 mph range, if I'm leaving any un used power on the table with this map would be nice to use that power if there is any.
Extreme HDF Member
Joined: Jun 2011
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From: Mountain Top, Alabama
I don't believe the Autotune would be better than a proper dyno, but I am sure it would be good.
It's your call.
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Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Jan 2010
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From: earth
Roll the dice and take a chance, so what if it does make it worse, just reload the map you are pretty happy with now, on the other hand it might, and more likely will, get better. Won't know til you try. Don't care what name you attach to a canned map, its still a canned map, each bike is different.
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,282
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From: Northwestern Nevada
Spend your money the way you want. It does not matter what we think, you spoke to him, what does your perception of the man tell you?
All you might get here is assumption.
Either way your scooter will probably run good, and sine it already runs good...(shrug).
All you might get here is assumption.
Either way your scooter will probably run good, and sine it already runs good...(shrug).