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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 08:49 AM
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I would like to get my clutch to engage a little closer to the grip than it is now. Where is this adjustment made, at the clutch basket or the cable freeplay adjuster ? Which way would I go to get the friction area closer to the grip , less or more freeplay , if that is where the adjustment is or backing out the clutch adjuster more . Right now I have my freeplay set at about 1/8" and the clutch adjuster screw backed out 1/2 turn.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 09:00 AM
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back off the screw at the basket more around 3/4 turn out
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 09:04 AM
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What he said. Also, bear in mind that although there is a procedure to follow for clutch adjustment, it's as much about "feel" as it is technique.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 09:24 AM
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Set the basket 1/2-3/4" turn with primary cold. Be sure you do it a few times actually going in past no play a turn or so to deburr threads and pull the lever so you know your are coming from zero clearance. That is where most errors are made. If you are truly 1/2 turn out, your problem is with the lever free play. That can be set as little as a 1/32 as long as it is 1/32 all the way at both stop positions of the bars. Do it that way and you will fill the clutch starting grab closer to the grip. It also will not bang going into first on startup if you start in neutral while holding in clutch and continue to hold in clutch for about 60 seconds (till cold rpm idle takes it's first drop)
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 09:40 AM
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There are only 2 ways to do this, the hard way and the easy way. This is my OPINION, I am not a Harley trained technician. The adjustment at the clutch hub sets the relationship between the clutch release ramp/ball assembly to be certain that no release effort is ever applied to the clutch when not wanted. The cable adjustment requires free play to also make certain of the same thing. Once the minimum free play requirement is met, it can be increased to adjust the friction zone to suit the rider's taste.

Once the hub adjustment is set to factory specs, the fine tuning is easier with cable adjustments as there is no need to repeatedly remove the 5 screws, make a small adjustment, replace the cover and 5 screws and test ride and repeat until the desired setting is discovered. For you, shortening the cable adjuster will accomplish your goal, perhaps 1/2 a turn at a time until you get what you want. CAUTION: The easy pull clutch provides relatively little clutch release mechanism movement so a seemingly small change in friction zone might prevent full clutch release. The indications for that would be an increased "bang" when shifting into gear, a tendency for the bike to crawl forward when the clutch lever is solid against the grip and greater difficulty in getting the transmission into neutral.

While there are advocates of both hub adjustment and cable adjustment, once the minimum maintenance tolerances are met, it makes no difference which way you make the "fine tuning" adjustments.

Now, sit back and watch the smoke and fire.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 09:55 AM
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Agree with the above. It is really pretty simple & easy to do.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 11:00 AM
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So I should have slop in the cable adjuster before setting the 1/2 - 3/4 turn on the clutch basket, then set the freeplay of the cable after the adjustment is made on the clutch basket, correct ?

My understanding per the manual is that the cable should be loose before trying to setting the clutch basket.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by pt4u2nv
So I should have slop in the cable adjuster before setting the 1/2 - 3/4 turn on the clutch basket, then set the freeplay of the cable after the adjustment is made on the clutch basket, correct ?

My understanding per the manual is that the cable should be loose before trying to setting the clutch basket.
You need to back off the cable to be sure it does not interfere with the basket setting. The basket setting insures there is enough free play so the throw out bearing does not spin when the clutch is out and of course all the spring pressure is on the clutch disks. However that 1/2-3/4 turn on that fine thread is only .025-.075 length. That give plenty of clearance for when the disk get hot for there to be a little clearance. That is why in my previous post I was trying to explain your fix needs to be in the lever free play. You had .125 length there which translates to a lot of moving out on the lever before clutch starts grabbing. I like you hate it out near end of travel. I have short fingers, and they get lazy out that far.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 01:10 PM
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It depends on who you ask...

Personally, I use the clutch adjuster screw to adjust the clutch, and the cable adjuster to adjust the cable. But, that's just me...
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Def Mute
It depends on who you ask...

Personally, I use the clutch adjuster screw to adjust the clutch, and the cable adjuster to adjust the cable. But, that's just me...
Makes sense to me!
 
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