Is SERT or PC III Overkill?
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EASYGLIDE, Thanks for showing that dyno sheet. I have a stage one download in my bike and it seems to run great. I was starting to think it was not possible with just a download. I have a Reinheart 2-1 coming so things might change.
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RE: Is SERT or PC III Overkill?
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EASYGLIDE, Thanks for showing that dyno sheet. I have a stage one download in my bike and it seems to run great. I was starting to think it was not possible with just a download. I have a Reinheart 2-1 coming so things might change.
EASYGLIDE, Thanks for showing that dyno sheet. I have a stage one download in my bike and it seems to run great. I was starting to think it was not possible with just a download. I have a Reinheart 2-1 coming so things might change.
I thought i needed the SERT (PCIII, just doesn't float my boat!), after reading all the glorious reviews of it, but the expense. I'm not planning any more changes to my exhaust or A/C, for a bit anyway.
gunrunner, i appreciate your comments. Seems quite a few people, put down the Stage 1 D/L, but you are one of the first to compliment the techs. In my case, while it may be EPA compliant, my results are positive so far.
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I was not putting down theStage One download Gunrunner--I meant one sizefits all for "my setup". It would not surprise me to see some variation in a stock bike's A/F mixture within some given range. Either way, ifthe bike keeps running like it is now, I won't be messing with it.The feedback the folks on this forum have given me on my Dynoresults, confirmswhat I suspected --paying for a moreprecise tune would not be worth the money.
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RE: Is SERT or PC III Overkill?
ORIGINAL: Easyglide
I was not putting down theStage One download Gunrunner--I meant one sizefits all for "my setup". It would not surprise me to see some variation in a stock bike's A/F mixture within some given range. Either way, ifthe bike keeps running like it is now, I won't be messing with it.The feedback the folks on this forum have given me on my Dynoresults, confirmswhat I suspected --paying for a moreprecise tune would not be worth the money.
I was not putting down theStage One download Gunrunner--I meant one sizefits all for "my setup". It would not surprise me to see some variation in a stock bike's A/F mixture within some given range. Either way, ifthe bike keeps running like it is now, I won't be messing with it.The feedback the folks on this forum have given me on my Dynoresults, confirmswhat I suspected --paying for a moreprecise tune would not be worth the money.
Can you tell me if this set-up helped with any heat issues you may have noticed in the stock configuration, and do you sense it is not running lean / hot.
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DCraner, I have not had a chance to run the bike for a long distance since the Stage One was done. But based on the Dyno run, I am definitely running a tad richer in the RPM range I spend most of my riding time, compared to the stock set up when I bought it.
The bike runs smooth and seems to breathe better with the SE A/C. I plan on checking my oil temp frequently for a while to see if it has made a difference.
The bike runs smooth and seems to breathe better with the SE A/C. I plan on checking my oil temp frequently for a while to see if it has made a difference.
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ORIGINAL: Easyglide
I was not putting down theStage One download Gunrunner--I meant one sizefits all for "my setup". It would not surprise me to see some variation in a stock bike's A/F mixture within some given range. Either way, ifthe bike keeps running like it is now, I won't be messing with it.The feedback the folks on this forum have given me on my Dynoresults, confirmswhat I suspected --paying for a moreprecise tune would not be worth the money.
I was not putting down theStage One download Gunrunner--I meant one sizefits all for "my setup". It would not surprise me to see some variation in a stock bike's A/F mixture within some given range. Either way, ifthe bike keeps running like it is now, I won't be messing with it.The feedback the folks on this forum have given me on my Dynoresults, confirmswhat I suspected --paying for a moreprecise tune would not be worth the money.
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RE: Is SERT or PC III Overkill?
ORIGINAL: Easyglide
DCraner, I have not had a chance to run the bike for a long distance since the Stage One was done. But based on the Dyno run, I am definitely running a tad richer in the RPM range I spend most of my riding time, compared to the stock set up when I bought it.
The bike runs smooth and seems to breathe better with the SE A/C. I plan on checking my oil temp frequently for a while to see if it has made a difference.
DCraner, I have not had a chance to run the bike for a long distance since the Stage One was done. But based on the Dyno run, I am definitely running a tad richer in the RPM range I spend most of my riding time, compared to the stock set up when I bought it.
The bike runs smooth and seems to breathe better with the SE A/C. I plan on checking my oil temp frequently for a while to see if it has made a difference.
Enjoy that ride, ride safe.
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well the only other variables in my example was the oil cooler, and i switched to Syn 3 at the time they did the Stage 1 (see above).
My average temp on HOT days (80's for example), dropped byat least30 degrees using the digital dipstick. As to what the oil cooler is doing aside from the Stage 1 D/L that's hard to quantify.
My average temp on HOT days (80's for example), dropped byat least30 degrees using the digital dipstick. As to what the oil cooler is doing aside from the Stage 1 D/L that's hard to quantify.
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RE: Is SERT or PC III Overkill?
Easyglide,
Do you know if your Stage 1 Download had the 903 Bulletin incorporated in it? The Stage 1calibrationnumber with the 903 is # 34455-07B/DT and the prior one without is #34455-07A/DT.
Do you know if your Stage 1 Download had the 903 Bulletin incorporated in it? The Stage 1calibrationnumber with the 903 is # 34455-07B/DT and the prior one without is #34455-07A/DT.
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Road Glide, I had the 903 download completed right after the service bulletin came out. I don't think the two are integrated.My understanding isthat they are mutually exclusive downloads.
I do not believe the903 download has an affect on theA/F mixture. The Stage One apparently does, to account for the larger flow SE A/C.
I do not believe the903 download has an affect on theA/F mixture. The Stage One apparently does, to account for the larger flow SE A/C.