Very interesting commentary and basically healthy. Nothing wrong with calling out Jamie or Steve or Doc. If, in fact like someone posted, that some of these guys M.F. each other on another forum, that crosses the line IMHO.

I have dealt with FM and bought every upgrade from them. Every pv map has been pretty much spot on out of box. I'm not saying it can't happen that a bad one get put out. Just has not been my experience. What I can tell you is the tune provided by Jamie is for your particular situation. If for some reason you change something, that map is no longer valid. Not saying that happened in this case but I know it can happen. Changing something simple like a different slip on muffler can have dramatic negative results. Especially on a modded motor. Ask me how I know...

 

Oh yeah. Both Steves (TTS and Fullsac) have talked themselves out of ever getting another dime of my hard-earned. Jamie's never stooped to their level and lets his products and service speak for themselves.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again; there's no such thing as the "perfect" canned map......Even the way Jamie does it. With that said, most people will be perfectly happy with the performance of Jamie's maps, as they're awfully good (far better than the base TTS calibrations). This is where the PV really kicks *** though, as anyone can easily, without other hardware, street tune their bike and have it running excellent.

 

Every bike is not identical & also a lot of difference between riders...how you ride your bike. What I was meaning by variables is that it depends a lot on where you live....elevation, typical weather conditions, etc.
I believe your bike should be tuned where you live for this reason.
For example, if you live in the mountains and buy a canned map that was developed at sea level it's going to be far from optimal.

After I bought my bike and had basic stage 1 upgrades done, I started with a canned map, then eventually had it tuned on a dyno. Was it ok with the canned map, yeah. But it was 100 times better after the dyno.
When I did cams and went with a 2-1 I obviously had to have it dyno tuned again.
It depends if you want "fine" or want it dialed in perfect. Fine is ok for some/most who don't know any different or have never had a good dyno tune. A good dyno tune makes a HUGE difference, even with just a basic stage 1.
I'll always opt for perfect, or as close as it can get.

 

I do agree there is nothing better than a full dyno tune for your bike for that set of conditions. 100 times better? A little credibility gap when you say something like that. Any canned map I have gotten from FM was 95% there already. Also, you clearly don't understand the potential of the Powervision to adapt your tune to various situations. If I frequently drive into the mountains I can load a custom tune that I developed for my bike for those conditions... in five minutes. I can then load the "Sea level" map in five minutes when I return.