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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 08:26 PM
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Read the rest of the story... it's all on the same page.

FLHTK: 10.0:1 Compression ratio
FLHTCU: 9.7:1 Compression ratio
 
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by one-up
I was looking closely at the 2014 Limited torque specs. vs 2014 Ultra torque specs. Was trying to determine how torque # was affected with water cooling on the Limited vs the regular air cooling on the Ultra.

This is what I found on the H-D website, under "specs" for each model.

Limited: 105.5 ft.lbs. torque @ 3750 RPM

Ultra: 104.7 ft. lbs. torque @ 3250 RPM

So the Limited has 0.8 ft.lbs of torque more than the Ultra. Then when you look at the RPM #, you gotta wonder about the water cooling and the cost of it for less the 1 ft.lbs. of torque increase.

Am I missing something??
I just spent a week riding a 14 ULimited and I would have to say you are missing the point completely. I ran in traffic that was more stop than go for an hour or more at a time and the motor never felt hot.

Trying to justify the water cooling by extra torque is missing the point entirely.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 08:58 PM
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So this seems to be what some of you are saying???
 
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 10:05 PM
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I thought the idea behind the water cooling crap was to keep the engine a little cooler
not add HP or torque
 
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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 03:23 AM
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Cool 1 ft/lb of torque?

harley davidson has said for years that they sell their bikes in a mild state of tune! like fuel injection, liquid cooling has performance advantages! let's give harley 5 years, and see where they go with liquid cooling! cheers from montana
 
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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bingram1
His post was confusing to me. I get that the Limited has more torque but then I thought he was asking why more money for the Limited.
The question was not "why more $$ for the Limited". I understand that completely. The question is:

"why would the MoCo spend all that $$ on water cooling for such little performance improvement?"


Okay Safetyman, thanks for the rest of the story.
 

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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by one-up
I was looking closely at the 2014 Limited torque specs. vs 2014 Ultra torque specs. Was trying to determine how torque # was affected with water cooling on the Limited vs the regular air cooling on the Ultra.

This is what I found on the H-D website, under "specs" for each model.

Limited: 105.5 ft.lbs. torque @ 3750 RPM

Ultra: 104.7 ft. lbs. torque @ 3250 RPM

So the Limited has 0.8 ft.lbs of torque more than the Ultra. Then when you look at the RPM #, you gotta wonder about the water cooling and the cost of it for less the 1 ft.lbs. of torque increase.

Am I missing something??
Those figures don't appear to line up with what was presented in the dealer training... (not like it matters much)
 
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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGrandPoohBah
A new feature now available on the 2014 Limited:
When you ride it into your garage, it wets on the floor like a Cocker Spaniel.

I have to agree with Bing... you are truly funny! Are you a professional comedian or just very witty?
 
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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 09:58 AM
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Specs published by Harley certainly aren't real world, rear wheel. Jamie from Fuel Moto has posted some charts on bone stock 2014's.

The Twin Cooled produced 90 ft/lbs at 4,000 RPM.

The air cooled produced 91.43 ft/lbs. at about 3250.

Here's the blog on his upgrades to an air cooled. He put this on the Bagger thread pinned to the top of this forum.

http://blogs.dynojet.com/index.php/2...asuring-power/
 
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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by one-up
I was looking closely at the 2014 Limited torque specs. vs 2014 Ultra torque specs. Was trying to determine how torque # was affected with water cooling on the Limited vs the regular air cooling on the Ultra.

This is what I found on the H-D website, under "specs" for each model.

Limited: 105.5 ft.lbs. torque @ 3750 RPM

Ultra: 104.7 ft. lbs. torque @ 3250 RPM

So the Limited has 0.8 ft.lbs of torque more than the Ultra. Then when you look at the RPM #, you gotta wonder about the water cooling and the cost of it for less the 1 ft.lbs. of torque increase.

Am I missing something??
10:1 compression Vs 9.7:1
 
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