Warranty question- changing speedo
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This has gotten messy on my end. I didn't know that a service that changed face plates existed or I may have worked with that from the start. But here is what I need now:
I'm getting a painted inner fairing. My existing black gauges (especially the two large ones) have the glass halo, presumably from frequent wetting. Also, the bike can't be in this private shop for days, he has limited space so an exchange set of gauges seemed like the fix to get everything done quickly, in and out in one day.
The gauges I bought are silver and the tach is ABS. Can you change the face plate to get rid of the ABS emblem and take out the bulb or does it need to be removed if the face plate is changed and the emblem is gone?
If this works I'll send the tach out to get this done. The speedo remains a question. Will changing it affect my warranty? And can the dealer read the mileage off the ECM?
I'm getting a painted inner fairing. My existing black gauges (especially the two large ones) have the glass halo, presumably from frequent wetting. Also, the bike can't be in this private shop for days, he has limited space so an exchange set of gauges seemed like the fix to get everything done quickly, in and out in one day.
The gauges I bought are silver and the tach is ABS. Can you change the face plate to get rid of the ABS emblem and take out the bulb or does it need to be removed if the face plate is changed and the emblem is gone?
If this works I'll send the tach out to get this done. The speedo remains a question. Will changing it affect my warranty? And can the dealer read the mileage off the ECM?
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Dealers can not change mileage of used gauges. The mileage can only be set when buying new gauges from the dealer.
Also so everyone know when buying used gauges you must buy the appropriate gauge for your bike ABS/Non ABS. The ABS light marries the bike when installed and is stored in the gauge. Installing a ABS gauge in a non ABS bike will result in the light blinking and can not be corrected by the dealer as it is stored in the gauge. And just the opposite if installing a used non ABS gauge in a ABS bike will result in the ABS light not working. The dealer can not fix these issues as it is stored in the gauge and they are not wanting to help any1 commit FRAUD purchasing used gauges. they will how ever be happy to sell you new gauges and have the mileage set from the factory.
I do not know if the mileage is in the ECM of the older bikes I believe in the 2013 baggers it started to be stored.
but think like this you have been taking your bike in for service all this time they have been writing down your mileage every time they work on it. NOw all of a sudden the mileage changed with the next service by 10,000 miles(or whatever it is) it will reflect in your records and to the next person you are trying to sell your bike to and if it's 10,000 less you are committing FRAUD. If it's 10,000 more you just put another 10,000 on your bike and depreciated its value even thow you really didn't add those miles.
Also so everyone know when buying used gauges you must buy the appropriate gauge for your bike ABS/Non ABS. The ABS light marries the bike when installed and is stored in the gauge. Installing a ABS gauge in a non ABS bike will result in the light blinking and can not be corrected by the dealer as it is stored in the gauge. And just the opposite if installing a used non ABS gauge in a ABS bike will result in the ABS light not working. The dealer can not fix these issues as it is stored in the gauge and they are not wanting to help any1 commit FRAUD purchasing used gauges. they will how ever be happy to sell you new gauges and have the mileage set from the factory.
I do not know if the mileage is in the ECM of the older bikes I believe in the 2013 baggers it started to be stored.
but think like this you have been taking your bike in for service all this time they have been writing down your mileage every time they work on it. NOw all of a sudden the mileage changed with the next service by 10,000 miles(or whatever it is) it will reflect in your records and to the next person you are trying to sell your bike to and if it's 10,000 less you are committing FRAUD. If it's 10,000 more you just put another 10,000 on your bike and depreciated its value even thow you really didn't add those miles.
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I work with a few dealers across the country. Last year I was getting gauges in before the bikes ever left the shop's floor.
I am getting gauges in this week from Indy West HD Plainfield, IN and a few weeks ago I did 3 sets of gauges from Great lakes HD of Bay City, MI.
I am getting gauges in this week from Indy West HD Plainfield, IN and a few weeks ago I did 3 sets of gauges from Great lakes HD of Bay City, MI.
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Dealers can not change mileage of used gauges. The mileage can only be set when buying new gauges from the dealer.
Also so everyone know when buying used gauges you must buy the appropriate gauge for your bike ABS/Non ABS. The ABS light marries the bike when installed and is stored in the gauge. Installing a ABS gauge in a non ABS bike will result in the light blinking and can not be corrected by the dealer as it is stored in the gauge. And just the opposite if installing a used non ABS gauge in a ABS bike will result in the ABS light not working. The dealer can not fix these issues as it is stored in the gauge and they are not wanting to help any1 commit FRAUD purchasing used gauges. they will how ever be happy to sell you new gauges and have the mileage set from the factory.
I do not know if the mileage is in the ECM of the older bikes I believe in the 2013 baggers it started to be stored.
but think like this you have been taking your bike in for service all this time they have been writing down your mileage every time they work on it. NOw all of a sudden the mileage changed with the next service by 10,000 miles(or whatever it is) it will reflect in your records and to the next person you are trying to sell your bike to and if it's 10,000 less you are committing FRAUD. If it's 10,000 more you just put another 10,000 on your bike and depreciated its value even thow you really didn't add those miles.
Also so everyone know when buying used gauges you must buy the appropriate gauge for your bike ABS/Non ABS. The ABS light marries the bike when installed and is stored in the gauge. Installing a ABS gauge in a non ABS bike will result in the light blinking and can not be corrected by the dealer as it is stored in the gauge. And just the opposite if installing a used non ABS gauge in a ABS bike will result in the ABS light not working. The dealer can not fix these issues as it is stored in the gauge and they are not wanting to help any1 commit FRAUD purchasing used gauges. they will how ever be happy to sell you new gauges and have the mileage set from the factory.
I do not know if the mileage is in the ECM of the older bikes I believe in the 2013 baggers it started to be stored.
but think like this you have been taking your bike in for service all this time they have been writing down your mileage every time they work on it. NOw all of a sudden the mileage changed with the next service by 10,000 miles(or whatever it is) it will reflect in your records and to the next person you are trying to sell your bike to and if it's 10,000 less you are committing FRAUD. If it's 10,000 more you just put another 10,000 on your bike and depreciated its value even thow you really didn't add those miles.
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This has gotten messy on my end. I didn't know that a service that changed face plates existed or I may have worked with that from the start. But here is what I need now: I'm getting a painted inner fairing. My existing black gauges (especially the two large ones) have the glass halo, presumably from frequent wetting. Also, the bike can't be in this private shop for days, he has limited space so an exchange set of gauges seemed like the fix to get everything done quickly, in and out in one day. The gauges I bought are silver and the tach is ABS. Can you change the face plate to get rid of the ABS emblem and take out the bulb or does it need to be removed if the face plate is changed and the emblem is gone? If this works I'll send the tach out to get this done. The speedo remains a question. Will changing it affect my warranty? And can the dealer read the mileage off the ECM?
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I don't agree with this blanket "FRAUD" statement. In FL you have to sign an odometer statement. There is a blank for "odometer does not reflect the actual mileage". If you complete the form correctly there is no fraud. And documenting the mileage with pictures when you make the change will help you with your next seller either way.
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Good talking to you Jim. I'll get the gauges on the way as soon as I can get time to take it all apart. Trace
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