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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BigD64
I had something similar happen but I believe it was due to an almost undetectable amount of sand (rear tire slid out.) If you still had traction when the bracket was scraping I think more throttle (not less) may have helped you out of it. Of course you may have been in a position were you were screwed either way. Glad your ok and only had minor damage.
I'm 99.9% sure the rear tire unloaded from the bracket taking the weight because I exceeded the allowable lean angle. Like I mentioned, once I heard the board I started to try to move further into the turn, but it was over before I could even adjust.

I've had the rear slide out on loose gravel on a turn at speed before, but it was a small enough spot for the tire to catch clean asphalt again before laying over. It's a cheek clencher for sure. Although the advice I've heard on rear tire slide is to not do anything. No gas, no brake. Basically allow the tire to regain static friction.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 01:56 PM
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Thanks for sharing. Glad ya and the bike are OK. Over confidence is a bad thing. I'm still scared when I ride after nearly 50 years of riding.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 0ldhippie
I'm still scared when I ride after nearly 50 years of riding.
I kinda feel the same way, not so much scared when I ride but just very cautious. I think if I actually felt scared I would give it up. I had a guy go down behind me one day, almost ran into the back of me. He was obviously over riding his ability and drifted up high in a turn and lost it in the gravel. I got off my bike as soon as I could and was very hesitant to go back and check on him for fear of what I might find. He was up before I got to him though thankfully. Tore the bike up pretty bad, his maiden voyage after a new paint job. Spent the rest of the day nervous as hell about riding home. Called my wife after it happened just to tell her I would be a little late. She could hear it in my voice that I was a little shaken up. I don't ride in groups much any more because of it. Maybe 3 or 4 bikes but that's it and always people I know and have ridden with before. You can get in trouble in a hurry by trying to keep up with more experienced riders. I have been riding since High School and I'm 52 now, still enjoy it for the most part but I'm also just as happy mowing the grass on my new Toro Zero Turn mower on my newly acquired 10 acre home. Kinda funny how you change over the years.
 

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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 03:00 PM
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I'm running an Ultra with the board extenders and they do move the touch down point from the edge of the hinged floor board to the hard support of the board. I've touched down many times but not hard enough to lift the rear tire. I've sometimes wondered if I could remove the spacers and still ride as comfortable. Somewhere on YouTube I saw a video of a touring bike going down in exactly this way. Glad event was relatively minor and OP is OK.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 03:03 PM
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Scared may be the wrong word, but diffidently aware. I look down at how fast the pavement is moving and think about how much skin it could take. Makes me dress for the fall. I see the idiots driving with their knees while texting at 80 mph next to me. Keeps my eyes moving and hand covering the brake. I notice when I'm doing something stupid or over my skill level from track days and practice. I know I'm not a good rider because I know and have been around good ones. Yet many folks I ride with think I'm crazy going too fast and doing stupid moves. I'm still alive, maybe just lucky?? But as I told the guys chasing me down a windy road "I am slowing up in my old age", just got the eye roll...
 

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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 07:45 PM
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You are riding a cruiser bike not a crotch rocket at 100 mph. Keep your butt still, use your handlebars to steer the bike. That's what they are there for.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 08:31 PM
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off the throttle? Not a good idea, upsets the suspension sends all the weight to the front wheel.imao
 
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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 08:56 PM
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Glad you're OK
 
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Time to slow it down a bit. Washing out is always a tense moment.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by aces25
I'm 99.9% sure the rear tire unloaded from the bracket taking the weight because I exceeded the allowable lean angle. Like I mentioned, once I heard the board I started to try to move further into the turn, but it was over before I could even adjust.

I've had the rear slide out on loose gravel on a turn at speed before, but it was a small enough spot for the tire to catch clean asphalt again before laying over. It's a cheek clencher for sure. Although the advice I've heard on rear tire slide is to not do anything. No gas, no brake. Basically allow the tire to regain static friction.
I had this exact thing happen to me when I had my Road King. I was on Tioga Pass Road near Yosemite Nat'l Park. There were signs warning of gravel and I was going along at about 25-30 mph. At a spot where the road begins a 26% grade into a sharp right turn I hit gravel. The bike leaned hard right and I was sliding just as you described. I heard that same grinding sound as you. I just stayed with the bike, no braking, throttle constant kicking up gravel to my son who was riding behind me on a Sporty. The tire finally bit into clean asphalt and the bike just stood up and rode on. It was definitely pucker time!
 
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