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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 12:09 AM
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its not that i dont try to put the 38 oz in there but before i got a measuring device i would add the 1st quart the just guestimated the next few ounces. i was just wondering if it actually bothered anything with a little extra
The answer is no. I read somewhere that motor cops were running a little more in their primaries because of the long idling periods they experience. Supposedly the extra oil helped cooling. I would think too little may be a problem, the compensators are already not getting enough lubrication.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by $tonecold
The answer is no. I read somewhere that motor cops were running a little more in their primaries because of the long idling periods they experience. Supposedly the extra oil helped cooling. I would think too little may be a problem, the compensators are already not getting enough lubrication.
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 12:35 AM
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As 'ynots' stated, go with the visual. Better yet add more & see what happens & then you'll know. Seems like you don't like the answers you're getting.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 12:43 AM
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never said i didnt like the answers. my last comment was "thanks"
 
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 06:13 AM
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My take on the primary is differnet than most. Fluid is for the chain, not sure how sealed bearings are affected by the primary fluid. The clutch doesn't need fluid but too much can cause them to slip which gives you the hard to find neutral, shifting problems. Race bikes run dry a clutch, go check out a Ducati. So primary fluid isn't to cool the clutch, it's main purpose is the chain. Not enough and the chain doesn't get lubricated. The old shovel's where a dry clutch, the oil dripped on the chain.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 06:36 AM
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Yes, over filling will affect finding neutral and harder shifting as stated earlier.

I change my primary every time I change the engine oil (every 5k).
I measure the amount of primary oil removed and add the same amount when filling. Simply use a clean plastic container (at least 1 quart in size) to drain into then I pour content into a gas to oil ratio cup to measure it. When you drain the oil you do not get ALL the oil out of the primary. A small amount of oil stays in the primary. Over time if your draining 36 oz and adding 38 oz you can over fill. The primary fill level on a Harley is not easy to gauge.

Amazon has gas to oil ratio cups:
Amazon.com: Ratio Rite Premix Gas Fuel Oil Mixer Mixing 2-Stroke Measuring Cup With Lid: Kitchen & Dining Amazon.com: Ratio Rite Premix Gas Fuel Oil Mixer Mixing 2-Stroke Measuring Cup With Lid: Kitchen & Dining

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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 08:37 AM
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If you are "****" about the right amount of fluid, do the visual reference as suggested above. The amount needed to refill depends totally on the amount emptied. If 1 ounce remains trapped in the nooks and crannies more refill will be needed than if three ounces remain trapped. Draining hot, draining cold, draining over night, rocking left and right, keeping the clutch lever against the grip all night all affect the amount you will get out. Always putting in a fixed amount will not get consistent results, other than not being quite right most of the time. I have also heard the same thing about the wrenches who maintain the police demo machines adding a little extra primary fluid, so a little extra is better than a little under service. That is what I do and am happy with the results.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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Just to be clear on something. Not all 88" twins took 32 ozs. in the primary. ckeck the owner manual or your service manual. The 2013 bikes add 38 ozs. in a typical chain fluid change, if the primary cover has been off then add 45 ozs.
 
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