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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 06:12 PM
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I'm thinking about a top end upgrade. I'm thinking Harley, 103, 255 ,cams, rollers rockers, okeef heads, ported intake, true duals, thundermax tuner.I ride a 2008 road glide with 28,000 miles ?

Please give me your thoughts.
Thanks in advance
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 06:18 PM
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If your gonna do all that then why the 255 cams? Much better choices than that one.

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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 06:19 PM
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that's what they offer with the se upgrade?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 06:20 PM
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So it's for warranty purposes?

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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 06:20 PM
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i think you are going to waste a lot of $$.

if i was doing it, i would go Fuel Moto & talk to them about a 107 & some Wood Cams (like the 222, 555 or 777) .
 
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 06:30 PM
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I'm not a fan of the HD 255 cam. But if it's a warranty issue. I guess you're stuck with it.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bigskyroadglide
i think you are going to waste a lot of $$.

if i was doing it, i would go Fuel Moto & talk to them about a 107 & some Wood Cams (like the 222, 555 or 777) .


You'll be wasting a lot of money on roller rockers and heads if you put 255's in there. If you want a budget build with lots of low end then the 103 with 255's is a good choice. If you are going to spend the money on good heads then there are way better choices. Even if you do heads and a better cam the rollers aren't really necessary.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 06:36 PM
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08? Do the 103 or get a 107 kit from TMan Perf. Get Tman 555 cams. forget about roller rockers, don't need em and for this build just more noise. okeef heads, check. ported intake not needed. whose true duals? Forget about TMax and get TTS for $450.

the 255s are not right for a 103, too much compression and will be a bitch to start hot. I would look for a 107 kit simply because why not have 4 more cubes for the same money? Or close. On 103s, 107s I personally recommend the TMan performance 555 cams. NOT the woods 555s, either. You can get 107 kits from all over. I just said TMan because you should be buying cams from them. If not? Google Hyperformance in Des Moines (Ames?). Randy will hook you up with whatever it is you wish as far as a good kit. Ask if he will sell you a kit with used cylinders and you return your cylinders after the build. Doing cylinders THIS way is the best it gets, and again... for the same amount of money. New cylinders (reason I will no longer recommend a S&S 106 kit) is folks find that new cylinders are out of round and out of taper. NOT GOOD FOR YOU, my friend.

With the kind of build you are looking to do, ported intake is not needed. Okeef should have a nice street port package, nothing too wild!

Ummm... you really do not need roller rockers until you have a huge camset. I run SE 266s in my personal 12or, with regular rockers, so you know.

True duals will kill the bottom end a little bit, but with your upgrades you won't notice much, and those sound so bad ***.

Forget the TMax entirely. You can gain a way superior tune with TTS, and costs will be way way less. Go to the ignition/tuner section and this sticky will help you tune with TTS when you are ready. https://www.hdforums.com/forum/ignit...formation.html

One thing you should do, right up front is this: get a 1" dial indicator, and check the run out on your crank. If it is too much, then you will have to rebuild the crank.

Anymore with 96s and up? I am comfortable with .0035 run out. That's 35 thousandths. Much more, and your power boosting will not work out so well. HAHA! Don't ask how I know!

With what you have in mind... if the crank is good you should be good to go. It's not like you wish to build a race bike.

Nice touring with the ability to pass others at will, sound good, and still gets close to 40 mpg, I am guessing.

I am just giving my opinion on how I would tweek **** around a bit. And to tell you to save money on the rockers, the throttle body polish, and the TMax.

If you can... maybe you can have okeef size match the heads, same CCs on both heads, and if you were to try say a woods 777, you would have more up top. But for a cruiser 103 type bike, my go to is those Tman 555s.

Give the 107 a thought, and also, talk to Randy and he can explain the WHY I, me, personally, recommend to you getting your stock cylinders bored to fit new pistons in lieu of buying a 'kit'. It will be enlightening to you, I guarantee it, my friend.

Have fun, either way, and tell us how this all works out for you.
 
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Branch Okeefe heads are great quality... I had the # 4 heads, the PT heads look good and are designed for low end torque.

The 255 is a good torque cam and yes there are other choices, but it depends on what your looking for.

Roller rocker are nice if you have the money, but with such a mild cam it is really not needed.

Not really sure you need to port/polish the throttle body, but it is only money...

Big bore kit is easy shoot for a 106!

I am a fan of the Power Vision...

There are so many different choices out there and if you looking for any alternatives let me know.
 

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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 06:43 PM
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here is HOW you check your crank. Be sure to watch the embedded videos so you get what I am saying.


https://app.box.com/shared/o4at3m86o6

To watch the video, you will need to download to the PC and open the PDF with Adobe. I use Nitro7 for all of my PDF needs, but that will not play the two videos.

Are you going to do this yourself? Or a shop? on a 2008 bike... is warranty really a concern anymore?

There is better than SE stuff out there.

Except run.... don't hide if one tries to sell a S&S 106 kit to you. That will NOT be doing you any favors. I've had to cover multiple kits and have each one bored .010 (for a 107) and ditch the Weiscos for CPs to make those seal up nice. Last set, for my personal bike, had over .008 taper!!!!!!! That being said, if you could find a nice used 106 kit thats never been bored... turns out very nice how I described above.

If you are doing this thru a shop? Then go with what they recommend, but... those roller rockers are just profit for them, and the TMax I would assume the shop does not have a dyno, either. If you could further define NORTH, maybe somebody could recommend a tuning shop within a couple hours?

Unlike the poster above me, I do NOT know okeef, but they have a good rep and would run em if I had em. Just be sure to get some kind of 'street port' and nothing too wild. Heads touched up DO improve the mid to top on a bike. Our heads, from the factory, are so hit and miss its not funny at all!
 

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