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If you can accept the change of look ... and it really does not matter because the wheel is hidden by the bags ... it would actually been cheaper to resolve this issue by sticking a cast allow wheel on the back.
Think about a Fat Boy (solid) or an Airstrike (slotted).
Easier to keep clean and no maintenance.
You'll find many on Ebay and at breaker yards. You want a 3.00 x 16" with a 1" axle. You can swop 25mm bearings for 1" bearings if necessary.
Spoke wheels are worth dropping IMHO, at least on the rear, because eventually the rims will rust out too.
I doubt the previous dealer did anything to your wheel.
Think about a Fat Boy (solid) or an Airstrike (slotted).
Easier to keep clean and no maintenance.
You'll find many on Ebay and at breaker yards. You want a 3.00 x 16" with a 1" axle. You can swop 25mm bearings for 1" bearings if necessary.
Spoke wheels are worth dropping IMHO, at least on the rear, because eventually the rims will rust out too.
I doubt the previous dealer did anything to your wheel.
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I got the idea of using a Deuce wheel from a UK forum where some members had adapted FB wheels to replace RK wire-spoked wheels. Like them I had to bore the central hole of the hub to accept the 1" bearing spacer (the bearing seats are fine as they are), but that was the only mod.
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Does anyone happen to have the technical drawings for the 2002 to 2007 swing arm / rear fork / rear end ... or know where they are?
I am wondering what the design tolerances are, e.g. given that specific items such as crush tubes/internal spacer and side spacers could all be a variety of sizes ... even the paint on the arm is a couple of mm thick, or more.
It seems using the 2007 swing arm upgrade the pulley spacer remains the same and it is said that converting to a Brembo requires a 0.71" spacer on the other side ... but I am wondering how much and where it varies.
I am wondering what the design tolerances are, e.g. given that specific items such as crush tubes/internal spacer and side spacers could all be a variety of sizes ... even the paint on the arm is a couple of mm thick, or more.
It seems using the 2007 swing arm upgrade the pulley spacer remains the same and it is said that converting to a Brembo requires a 0.71" spacer on the other side ... but I am wondering how much and where it varies.
Last edited by Dun Roamin; May 20, 2014 at 02:34 PM.
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Does anyone happen to have the technical drawings for the 2002 to 2007 swing arm / rear fork / rear end ... or know where they are?
I am wondering what the design tolerances are, e.g. given that specific items such as crush tubes/internal spacer and side spacers could all be a variety of sizes ... even the paint on the arm is a couple of mm thick, or more.
It seems using the 2007 swing arm upgrade the pulley spacer remains the same and it is said that converting to a Brembo requires a 0.71" spacer on the other side ... but I am wondering how much and where it varies.
I am wondering what the design tolerances are, e.g. given that specific items such as crush tubes/internal spacer and side spacers could all be a variety of sizes ... even the paint on the arm is a couple of mm thick, or more.
It seems using the 2007 swing arm upgrade the pulley spacer remains the same and it is said that converting to a Brembo requires a 0.71" spacer on the other side ... but I am wondering how much and where it varies.
As for the Brembo caliper, it will need a 1" clearance hole, instead of the current 25mm, but the dimension required will be the same as the '07 caliper, if you have that. The thickness of the spacer required is the difference in thickness between the '07 brake arm and the Brembo one. I can provide those given time, but not quickly.
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Tolerances ...
I've done my Brembo ... but it's cannot be a 1" exact, you need some tolerances somewhere in the set up.
Ditto on the spacer. It's said it needs to be .71" ... but there are so many other variables, from the bearings and crush tube spacer, to manufacture of the swing arm, to thickness of paint even ... how can it be so exact? Is it .71" plus or minus how much?
How much variability can there be?
Given that at least one year of Glides ran at, what was it, about an 1/2" of an offset on wheels, I suppose it does not matter ... but then perhaps it does in that some bikes are eating their bearings.
I wonder why?
Blueprinting one's rear fork ... now there's a new obsession! I was surprised how much the axle slopped up and down in the end. I must measure it so see what size it actually is.
I think it might be useful to go back and measure it all up, to see how many variances there are even in the width between the lugs and find out to what tolerances H-D works. I couldn't get the front bearings to sit equally either. It seems the crush tube is too long for a perfect fit.
Last edited by Dun Roamin; May 21, 2014 at 04:44 AM.
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That's basically what I did this winter. I tightened up the remarkable amount of slop that existed stock in between the swingarm bushings and the shaft, stabilizing the arm. The results were quite pronounced when riding.
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Ditto on the spacer. It's said it needs to be .71" ... but there are so many other variables, from the bearings and crush tube spacer, to manufacture of the swing arm, to thickness of paint even ... how can it be so exact? Is it .71" plus or minus how much?
How much variability can there be?
How much variability can there be?
Given that at least one year of Glides ran at, what was it, about an 1/2" of an offset on wheels, I suppose it does not matter ... but then perhaps it does in that some bikes are eating their bearings.
I wonder why?
I wonder why?
Blueprinting one's rear fork ... now there's a new obsession! I was surprised how much the axle slopped up and down in the end. I must measure it so see what size it actually is.
I think it might be useful to go back and measure it all up, to see how many variances there are even in the width between the lugs and find out to what tolerances H-D works. I couldn't get the front bearings to sit equally either. It seems the crush tube is too long for a perfect fit.
I think it might be useful to go back and measure it all up, to see how many variances there are even in the width between the lugs and find out to what tolerances H-D works. I couldn't get the front bearings to sit equally either. It seems the crush tube is too long for a perfect fit.
What is the 'crush tube' of which you speak?
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"Crush tube" ...
The long inner spacer between the two bearings. It determines the distance between the two bearings, or how far into the recess the second bearing will fit.
If the lengths are not correct, and you torque it up, it'll put a sideways stress on the bearing which I am told - but do not know for myself - is the cause of some models eating bearings, particularly on the 25mm axles.
The long inner spacer between the two bearings. It determines the distance between the two bearings, or how far into the recess the second bearing will fit.
If the lengths are not correct, and you torque it up, it'll put a sideways stress on the bearing which I am told - but do not know for myself - is the cause of some models eating bearings, particularly on the 25mm axles.
Last edited by Dun Roamin; May 21, 2014 at 02:57 PM.