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Joined: Jun 2014
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From: Germantown, WI
Now that you have the bigger breathing air cleaner your going to be running lean until you re-map the ECU. (tune)
I have seen chrome exhaust pipes turn blue because of this lean condition.
Just some advise that you may want to tune earlier than you planned.
I have seen chrome exhaust pipes turn blue because of this lean condition.
Just some advise that you may want to tune earlier than you planned.
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Joined: May 2009
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From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
my stage 1 with FM 4.5 touring mufflers and xieds with Arlen Ness big Sucker work great. Much snappier than stock. Plugs looks great. Could i grap alittle more hp with a tuner? absolutley but i paid 50 bucks for my xieds on this forum. A 500 dollar PVC is the only way to go IMO with Jamie from FM. 450 bucks more than xied. U gotta pay to play. Next year that will happen.
Fuel injection does not have "circuits" like a carb, there is no 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, WOT, circuits
Looking at your plugs won't tell you much.
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From: Glendale AZ
my stage 1 with FM 4.5 touring mufflers and xieds with Arlen Ness big Sucker work great. Much snappier than stock. Plugs looks great. Could i grap alittle more hp with a tuner? absolutley but i paid 50 bucks for my xieds on this forum. A 500 dollar PVC is the only way to go IMO with Jamie from FM. 450 bucks more than xied. U gotta pay to play. Next year that will happen.
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From: Maryland near DC
finally got a basic stage one set up.. I've had monster ovals for awhile now.. picked up some xieds shortly after and just recently got an se stage 1from a member.. u can definitely here it sucking up some air lol.. don't think the xieds are doing the trick anymore.. seems like I lost some snap n the throttle.. guess I'm n the market for a tuner now.. wen I get the funds I'll get a pcv from fuel moto
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From: DOWN SOUTH
The x-ied's take away the lean. I have been running them, big sucker, gutted headpipe and klock werks 4 inch super saver slip ons for almost 2 years now, troublefree. You are correct that the lean will blue the chrome. I have a bud that I work with, he has a 2013 SG with vance and hines on it and the right pipe is already blue from the factory lean.
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From: new caney, tx
I never said I had any issues.. the bike sucks was meant for the increase in air. I just don't like the way it feels as far as ur logic about their mix being the same I'd disagree.. but ur right they SHOULD work but every bike runs different. xieds add something like 8% more fuel.. I'm sure my intake alone is flowing more than that.... to me it feels lean it hesitates more than it ever has.. and it didn't do it before the intake was on.. so using some brain power I'd assume I'm sucking in a lot of air and not enough fuel.. which is y I said I'd take it off for now until u can get the pcv.. I could care less about the pipes bluing
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From: Maryland near DC
I never said I had any issues.. the bike sucks was meant for the increase in air. I just don't like the way it feels as far as ur logic about their mix being the same I'd disagree.. but ur right they SHOULD work but every bike runs different. xieds add something like 8% more fuel.. I'm sure my intake alone is flowing more than that.... to me it feels lean it hesitates more than it ever has.. and it didn't do it before the intake was on.. so using some brain power I'd assume I'm sucking in a lot of air and not enough fuel.. which is y I said I'd take it off for now until u can get the pcv.. I could care less about the pipes bluing
the xieds add around 8% as you say, but it is not a flat amount of fuel , it is 8% more than what the fuel controller calls for,, and that amount changes all the time depending on load, air pressure etc....So by putting a freeer breathing air cleaner on you are allowing more air to enter at higher rpms/load (at lower rpms/load the original ac flowed all the air the engine needed), the fuel controller recognizes this and add more fuel to that air (to which the xieds, add another 8%) ...now if the orginal programming to the fuel controller was extremely lean and the added 8% from the xieds is not enough to give a good mix than a new fuel controller can help increase that mix...That said , you say you are getting hesitation, this could still be a controller issue, or it could be something like bad gas causing the timing to change to stop pinging (I think??)...