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Jim
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Question for coupe55,
You stated that you did not get new head pipe, drilled out cat. Am I to understand you wrapped the stock head pipes.
As I am very cheap
, what else does it take to remove cat. as far as Tuners and such.
Thanks, Dennis
You stated that you did not get new head pipe, drilled out cat. Am I to understand you wrapped the stock head pipes.
As I am very cheap
, what else does it take to remove cat. as far as Tuners and such.Thanks, Dennis
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Drilled Cats
I had intended to replace the OEM headpipe after warranty but after I did the 30T Primary pulley change I am really satisfied with the performance as is. Did an oil analysis and bore scoped the cylinder walls to make sure there was no particulate matter damage cause by suck back!
I have no heat problem and the Tri runs well, I may get bored and change the pipes later on but as far as a need to, it is not really necessary!
And the term is Frugal...we don't use the word cheap!
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So going the Frugal... way, If I did this and wrapped stock pipe, changed air cleaner with K & N, the brains of bike would adjust OK and I would feel a little less heat?
I am happy now with power available, can bear the heat (my 05 ultra felt warmer to me and wife than the TG does now). This way seems like a way to go to maybe cool down bike a bit if I don't have to go with a tuner.
Some food for thought
Dennis
I am happy now with power available, can bear the heat (my 05 ultra felt warmer to me and wife than the TG does now). This way seems like a way to go to maybe cool down bike a bit if I don't have to go with a tuner.
Some food for thought
Dennis
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So going the Frugal... way, If I did this and wrapped stock pipe, changed air cleaner with K & N, the brains of bike would adjust OK and I would feel a little less heat?
I am happy now with power available, can bear the heat (my 05 ultra felt warmer to me and wife than the TG does now). This way seems like a way to go to maybe cool down bike a bit if I don't have to go with a tuner.
Some food for thought
Dennis
I am happy now with power available, can bear the heat (my 05 ultra felt warmer to me and wife than the TG does now). This way seems like a way to go to maybe cool down bike a bit if I don't have to go with a tuner.
Some food for thought
Dennis
JMO,
I'm not so sure that the ECM will adjust that much with the cleaned out cat and better air cleaner. Methinks she'll still be lean. On the "Frugal note", you might look into a set of XIED's or whatever they are. Cheaper than a tuner and will richen up the mixture. If you plan on doing more mods in the future like cams and so forth, I'd look into a good tuner to keep it on the safe side and be able to adjust for anything later on down the road.
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When I am able to get back in the saddle, I will talk with the guys at a private shop I use. They took care of my stuff before and see where they are at with this. They mentioned last year they were doing a few things on 4 or 5 other TGs.
They were always up on the EAP restrictions holding these things back, they may have a few suggestions more in line with my thinking and pocket book.
They were always up on the EAP restrictions holding these things back, they may have a few suggestions more in line with my thinking and pocket book.
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XIED's
When I am able to get back in the saddle, I will talk with the guys at a private shop I use. They took care of my stuff before and see where they are at with this. They mentioned last year they were doing a few things on 4 or 5 other TGs.
They were always up on the EAP restrictions holding these things back, they may have a few suggestions more in line with my thinking and pocket book.
They were always up on the EAP restrictions holding these things back, they may have a few suggestions more in line with my thinking and pocket book.
I should have mentioned that I do run the XIED's "poor mans tune". They are supposed to take you from a 14.6 AFR to around 13.8. When you are talking K&N filter I assume you just mean the K&N replacement filter. With stock mufflers and just the Replacement K&N the ECM will Adjust. I can run without the XIED's with no backfire or popping on decel so I know the ECM will adjust. However if you do both the free flowing slipons and a true Stage I you will need to tune!
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I should have mentioned that I do run the XIED's "poor mans tune". They are supposed to take you from a 14.6 AFR to around 13.8. When you are talking K&N filter I assume you just mean the K&N replacement filter. With stock mufflers and just the Replacement K&N the ECM will Adjust. I can run without the XIED's with no backfire or popping on decel so I know the ECM will adjust. However if you do both the free flowing slipons and a true Stage I you will need to tune!
Maybe Wiz can shed some more light on the capability of the stock calibration to adjust and exactly how much. I know that my neighbors Softail deluxe adjusted for the slipons just fine. When he changed the A/C to a Ness BS all hell broke loose. Wound up removing the A/C until he can afford a Tuner and I can tune it properly. He didn't want to waste his money on a factory Stage 1 dowload that is still too lean.