Vrod sales
Big Kahuna HDF Member
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From: USA
RE: Vrod sales
ORIGINAL: chicanagirl
I understand the vrod line sells better in Europe than here in America. Why haven't they become more popular here?
I understand the vrod line sells better in Europe than here in America. Why haven't they become more popular here?
Road Warrior
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From: The Biggest Little City, Reno, NV
RE: Vrod sales
ORIGINAL: eazy
The metrics may offer the same result (speed wise), but no where near the same performance---in engine performance, resale,and appeal.
You are quite themoron whylee, quite the moron.
The metrics may offer the same result (speed wise), but no where near the same performance---in engine performance, resale,and appeal.
You are quite themoron whylee, quite the moron.
Your the only Moron here buddy, apparently you cant read performance numbers. Look at the numbers and you will see facts, not what you want it to be just because you own one. The difference between the V Rod and the 109 was only 1 MPH in top end, and the 109 won in the 1/4 mile. I would pick the V Rod over the metrics any day of the week. But you can just sit back and revert to name calling if you want, the numbers will still be the same.
Road Warrior
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RE: Vrod sales
L e t....m e....s p e l l....t h i s....o u t....f o r....y o u....r e a l....s l o w l y, since you obviously cannot read or understand what I'm saying. If a 200 c.i.d engine is putting out 400 h.p. and a 454 c.i.d is putting out 410 the 200 c.i.d engine HAS MORE PERFORMANCE, even if both cars run within 1 m.p.h. of each other. You're jumping to the end of the situation, the results of the set-up, not the performance of the engine. If you're speaking of the entire bike you also need to include acceleration, braking, cornering, stability...................areas where those fat pigs on two wheel really suffer. You cannot look merely at the m.p.h. and say that one bike "performs" as well as another.
So again I say, show me another cruiser that can realistically compete.
So again I say, show me another cruiser that can realistically compete.
Road Warrior
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From: The Biggest Little City, Reno, NV
RE: Vrod sales
I fully see what you are saying easy, and I agree that other manufatures use more displacement to match that of the V Rod, Im just saying that most people that want a cruiser dont care so much about performance, they just look at price, and that it looks like a cruiser type of bike.
Elite HDF Member
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From: Nuevo México, Los Estados Unidos de América
RE: Vrod sales
As far as I've seen the V-Rods are still top-teir power cruisers... for 0-60, 1/4 mile, top speed... It's all within rider error at least. We know the V-Rods can run 1/4 in mid 11s, stock, with the right driver... what power cruisers beat that?
I guess I'm biased, but I think it's the best of the best, if I didn't, I'da spent less and gotten something else. I need a re-dino with all the tweaking I've been doing to my maps, I'll get a baseline to comfirm, but I'm pushing 120hp at the rear wheel with just A/C, exhaust and tune. With that crappy Dunlop I can break it loose anywhere in first or second (maybe with a different tire I could whelee). It's a beast!
Now if you are looking purely at numbers, you could of course get their cheaper, with either a metric power-cruiser or sportsbike... so maybe not the most bang-for-buck... but I think that's true of any Harley.
I guess I'm biased, but I think it's the best of the best, if I didn't, I'da spent less and gotten something else. I need a re-dino with all the tweaking I've been doing to my maps, I'll get a baseline to comfirm, but I'm pushing 120hp at the rear wheel with just A/C, exhaust and tune. With that crappy Dunlop I can break it loose anywhere in first or second (maybe with a different tire I could whelee). It's a beast!
Now if you are looking purely at numbers, you could of course get their cheaper, with either a metric power-cruiser or sportsbike... so maybe not the most bang-for-buck... but I think that's true of any Harley.
Road Master
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RE: Vrod sales
I have a v-rod, my wife has a v-rod, our 6 friends have v-rods, they are the best bike harley has made. I am an "air-head" convert and have ridden them for years. But nothing like power when you need it and styling that is second to none. Get what you can afford, but I will pay the extra money for the bike I want. The v-rod may not be for everyone but for my choice, its the only one.
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2nd Gear
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RE: Vrod sales
as a European i can only say that, even when we're only getting the AW and DX for 2008 here, V-Rod sales keep booming and it's also a fact that more traditional HD riders either switch completely to a V or add a V to their airhead stables
it's also a fact that those 'new' V-Rodders are NOT young guns per definition, i'm 47 myself and added a DX to my Road King only to realize now that the King has just been taking up garage space since April '07 being the moment when my DX arrived...
in general i believe the 'European boost' in V-sales has much to do with HD riders who have been longing for a factory 'fast' but above all modern Harley (not Buell) and take it from there rather than pooring lots of $$$ - and know that we pay at least 75% extra on top of your $$$ - in a traditional airhead (like i did also) to 'improve' its stock comfort & performance (sic); could it be that European riders accept this (economical) logic easier than the more traditional-conservative US riders ? maybe, i did for sure but i also must admit i bought the DX to own/ride a masterpiece (looks, performance) and NOT because it has HD written on it
another reason for better sales in Europe could be the fact that there are many times more customizers here that truly create aftermarket pieces-of-art parts for V-Rods; my dealer is working simultaneously on 4 DX's right know that haven't seen 1 inch of road yet hence will be customized before hitting the roads , and i'm not talking about a sissy bar and traditional covers here... my DX 's 240 tire never touched asphalt because i got a 280 conversion 3 days after the new bike was uncrated, at that time there were at least 6 companies selling those parts while - i think - there was only 1 in the US (Hogpro)
the better sales in Europe are NOT a result of the current favourable $-⏠exchange rate ... a stock DX costs 19.000 ⏠here ... that's nearly 30.000 USD ... and that's before opening any accessories catalog
just my 2 cents
it's also a fact that those 'new' V-Rodders are NOT young guns per definition, i'm 47 myself and added a DX to my Road King only to realize now that the King has just been taking up garage space since April '07 being the moment when my DX arrived...
in general i believe the 'European boost' in V-sales has much to do with HD riders who have been longing for a factory 'fast' but above all modern Harley (not Buell) and take it from there rather than pooring lots of $$$ - and know that we pay at least 75% extra on top of your $$$ - in a traditional airhead (like i did also) to 'improve' its stock comfort & performance (sic); could it be that European riders accept this (economical) logic easier than the more traditional-conservative US riders ? maybe, i did for sure but i also must admit i bought the DX to own/ride a masterpiece (looks, performance) and NOT because it has HD written on it
another reason for better sales in Europe could be the fact that there are many times more customizers here that truly create aftermarket pieces-of-art parts for V-Rods; my dealer is working simultaneously on 4 DX's right know that haven't seen 1 inch of road yet hence will be customized before hitting the roads , and i'm not talking about a sissy bar and traditional covers here... my DX 's 240 tire never touched asphalt because i got a 280 conversion 3 days after the new bike was uncrated, at that time there were at least 6 companies selling those parts while - i think - there was only 1 in the US (Hogpro)
the better sales in Europe are NOT a result of the current favourable $-⏠exchange rate ... a stock DX costs 19.000 ⏠here ... that's nearly 30.000 USD ... and that's before opening any accessories catalog
just my 2 cents
