Out of balance wheels?
Road Master
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From: Ramseur NC
On mag wheels we use dyna beads. What's the date code on your C3 tire ? There were problems with older 19" front tires. I have a C3 on my bagger with dyna beads and it rides fine.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/wheel...mander-3s.html
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/wheel...mander-3s.html
Resolved.
Took the wheel back to the shop. The place is a two man operation, the owner who sits behind a desk and the tech who does all the work.
Here is where it gets funny. I walk in with the wheel/tire. I could tell the tech was pissed off already. I hand him the tire and he starts in I dont give a F what anyone says - every tire needs weights, blah blah so I look at him and say - you would ride along with four and a half ounces on your front wheel? youd be ok with that? Really? You dont want to do this, give me back my fing wheel and Ill take it somewhere that gives a ****. He quieted down, pulled the core, deflated and broke the bead. Put it up on the clamps and said what do you want me to do - I told him to rotate the tire 180 and check it. (I already stripped off the quarter pounder worth of weights). He did, reinflated it and put it on the balancer. Spun it and loe and behold, 1.75 oz opposite the ounce and a quarter steel stem and Fobo TPMS cap. Nice. A crap load better than 4.5oz.
I just looked at the tech and said, well, how about that - the boss then came over and said Sorry.
Guess where Ill never go again
Took the wheel back to the shop. The place is a two man operation, the owner who sits behind a desk and the tech who does all the work.
Here is where it gets funny. I walk in with the wheel/tire. I could tell the tech was pissed off already. I hand him the tire and he starts in I dont give a F what anyone says - every tire needs weights, blah blah so I look at him and say - you would ride along with four and a half ounces on your front wheel? youd be ok with that? Really? You dont want to do this, give me back my fing wheel and Ill take it somewhere that gives a ****. He quieted down, pulled the core, deflated and broke the bead. Put it up on the clamps and said what do you want me to do - I told him to rotate the tire 180 and check it. (I already stripped off the quarter pounder worth of weights). He did, reinflated it and put it on the balancer. Spun it and loe and behold, 1.75 oz opposite the ounce and a quarter steel stem and Fobo TPMS cap. Nice. A crap load better than 4.5oz.
I just looked at the tech and said, well, how about that - the boss then came over and said Sorry.
Guess where Ill never go again
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Edit: Not sure what the red dot is used for though. They mounted it by valve stem.
Last edited by Rocking_it; Dec 19, 2023 at 02:05 PM.
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Until this I bought my current 2019 FLHTP, my two 1989 and my 2002 ElectraGlides I balanced the rim without the tire. I would recheck when I'd replace the tires, but I never needed any additional weights with the Metzeler 880 or 888 tires when I put the dot on the valve stem.
On my 2019 FLHTP, I use these - https://www.centramatic.com/wheel-ba...ype=Motorcycle
I'm still on the first set of tires with this system, but at 7000 miles, they look good!
On my 2019 FLHTP, I use these - https://www.centramatic.com/wheel-ba...ype=Motorcycle
I'm still on the first set of tires with this system, but at 7000 miles, they look good!
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For the first 40 years of street riding I changed my own tires
Had neither the equipment nor the inclination to balance a wheel /tire
I suspect many of us old guys did the same.
Had neither the equipment nor the inclination to balance a wheel /tire
I suspect many of us old guys did the same.
Last edited by eighteight; Dec 20, 2023 at 07:19 AM.
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who knows.
nevertheless, its resolved. But Ill sure well continue to get advice.
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It is NOT universal among manufacturers.
Dunlop uses it. And as posted, yellow is where the valve stem should align. Red is as posted, where tire meets and is heaviest.
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Balance Act
I went through this same thing 2 years ago with a BRAND NEW wheel from H-D. Had the tire installed, put it on the bike, rode fine.... Until I hit about 68 mph ! WTF?! I had balance beads installed. Took the wheel back to the shop and long story short, ended up rotating the tire 2 or 3 times and it only moved the weight issue or made it worse. Took the tire off the rim and spun it on the balancer. The rim bare, was almost 4 oz. out ! GREAT. So I had to go with conventional weights. Now there's a good look. Sure made me feel good about spending all that $$ on a new CVO wheel. It does run nice and smooth, so I don't really think about it. After all, it's not a show bike. I just bought the matching rear last week. Will be checking the balance before tire install. If it's out more than an oz., I will add some Devcon to the light side and move on.
Anyone looking so close to someone else's bike is probably up to no good anyway.
Anyone looking so close to someone else's bike is probably up to no good anyway.
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I went to dyna beads…and never looked back. Smooth as silk ruding. One of the advantages is that the tires never loose balance from west. And no, they don’t sound like a “Hula Hoop”.