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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 05:21 PM
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I installed a new front brake cable.. when i depress and hold the lever and loosen the bleeder valve a quarter of turn only a small amount comes out. Then i do it again and again and so on . It still.doesnt build up pressure. Is there something im doing wrong
 
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 05:33 PM
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you need to bleed them man, your going to need a tube and some brake fluid. so that you can not get air back in the line. i like a speed bleeders, or a mighty vac if not it will take you forever
 
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 05:52 PM
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Well i wasnt using no tube. Lol. I will give that a shot . The vacumm sounds even better.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mjones
I installed a new front brake cable.. when i depress and hold the lever and loosen the bleeder valve a quarter of turn only a small amount comes out. Then i do it again and again and so on . It still.doesnt build up pressure. Is there something im doing wrong
The problem is that the air bubbles want to rise, the whole time you are doing it. The mighty vac makes everything faster and gives the air less time to rise.

A trick that worked well for me was taking the master cylinder off the bars and getting it low to the ground, so that the air bubble would "rise" in the direction that I wanted them to go (out the bleeder). Worked fantastic!

But I have a softail that makes it easier to do. Not so easy on bikes that trap your cables in the fairings and stuff.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 09:09 PM
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Another great technique that's worked wonders for me is this: After you've bled them the best you can, fill the M/C and cap it, then tie the brake lever in the "brake on" position overnight (I bungee the front brake lever to the handlebar, or hang a weight from the rear brake lever with a bungee or rope). This keeps the system under pressure and opens the little valve in the M/C - bubbles rise and go into and to the top of the MC. In the morning, I find that the lever has "stiffened" nicely. FWIW/YMMV!
 
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 09:25 PM
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The best way, is to back bleed it. Go to a tool store and get an old style pump oil can, like you used to put oil in and lube stuff. Make sure it is clean and fill it with fluid. Put a peice of hose on the end that will fit tight on your caliper bleed screw. Open the screw and pump fluid into it so the fluid goes from the caliper up to the master cylinder and fills the master up with fluid.
Now your done.
 

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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jdaws
The best way, is to back bleed it. Go to a tool store and get an old style pump oil can, like you used to put oil in and lube stuff. Make sure it is clean and fill it with fluid. Put a peice of hose on the end that will fit tight on your caliper bleed screw. Open the screw and pump fluid into it so the fluid goes from the caliper up to the master cylinder and fills the master up with fluid.
Now your done.
I've heard guys talk about "back bleeding" -- always thought it required some sort of more elaborate pressurized system(!)
 
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jdaws
The best way, is to back bleed it...
A riding buddy called to plan a ride for tomorrow, and I mentioned this idea to him. He's a much more experienced wrench than me, and claims to use a much simpler method: run tubing from the bleeder valve to a half-liter water bottle about 1/4-full of brake fluid. Open bleeder valve and pump lever/pedal. The fluid will serve as flow check, so monitor master cylinder level and pump until no more bubbles.

Looks like this method would waste more brake fluid, but for a job I'll do (probably) at most once a year that would be irrelevant.
 
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Originally Posted by PPBART
A riding buddy called to plan a ride for tomorrow, and I mentioned this idea to him. He's a much more experienced wrench than me, and claims to use a much simpler method: run tubing from the bleeder valve to a half-liter water bottle about 1/4-full of brake fluid. Open bleeder valve and pump lever/pedal. The fluid will serve as flow check, so monitor master cylinder level and pump until no more bubbles.

Looks like this method would waste more brake fluid, but for a job I'll do (probably) at most once a year that would be irrelevant.
That method works great on cars, but had always left a few bubbles behind when I was doing front brakes on a bike. Seems the car pedal pushes the fluid so much faster and the larger reservoir allows for more ammo.

I use your buddies method in conjunction with the trick I had mentioned in post #4.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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I been using the back bleed on car and truck hydraulic clutches for years. It worked great on my bike brakes!
 
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