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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 03:41 PM
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Ok, heres the problem. I've got an 01 ultrta. The rear disc brake is giving me fits. It stops fine here in town, but when I go up to high altitude the petal goes to the floor and on the second pump the brake is fine. Come back to lower elevation and the brake works fine. I have rebuilt the master cylinder, rear caliper, new pads, and use the recomrnded DOT 5 fluid. What am I missing? I am beginning to think the fluid "outgasses" at elevation. Oh I live at 7400 ft of elevation in the Rockies and ride up to the 11-12000 foot elevation. Jetsam
 
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 06:58 PM
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I have to go with the obvious: air in the system. There is no gas in the fluid to come out of solution. Fluid is not compressable, air is; and it expands as altitude increases, so even a little air will become a lot at high altitude. Try bleeding extra carefully. There are good stickies on here about it.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 05:06 PM
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I agree with Dallas. Extra care when bleeding and best of luck!
 
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 10:02 AM
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Thats the best Idea. I'll get the wife in the garage with me tonight and we'll try again. This will be the fourth time I've bled the brakes. Where could that darn air bubble hide? Jetsam
 
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jetsam
Where could that darn air bubble hide? Jetsam
In a small nook such as a change of pipe, or any dip in the pipe, between cylinder and caliper. Harley brake pipes are not known for being simple or straight! I replaced the pipe on my Glide with an HEL hose kit, which is much simpler in shape and makes life easier.

My first Harley was also my first bike with hydraulic brakes and I had a devil of a problem bleeding the rear brake. I resorted to disconnecting the caliper and lying it on the ground, so it was the lowest point in the system. That worked, by allowing any air to find its way back to the reservoir.

You need to burp this darned thing, just like a baby! Best of luck.
 
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