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Old Feb 21, 2015 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jstrenn
Really not that difficult?

After reading this thread I pulled out the service manual and it involves removing the outer and inner fairing, pulling the whole upper triple tree/handle bar assembly, then your finally down to disassembling the steering stem/bearing assembly. Shouldn't take more than 15 to 20 minutes right?

What I'm talking about is just removing the outer fairing and adjusting the bearing preload using a 1/4" X 6" extension, and measuring the swing back of the forks. Literally 15 to 20 minutes.
I'm not trying to sound like an a$$ here but yes riding motorcycles are a bit different than driving a car. If a car becomes neglected and develops a vibration in a high speed turn its a bother; on a bike its deadly. Most avid MC riders learn to wrench their own scoots. If people get into this hobbie thinking it's cheap, their sadly mistaken.

Two choices here, learn to do the work yourself or pay a certified technician to do it for you. If you follow the recommended services, all OEM bikes have similiar service intervals. For easier access, there's always a sportster ... or a rebel
 
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Old Feb 22, 2015 | 08:51 AM
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I personally don't/wont even worry about it. It's not like its a spinning wheel.
My 08 had a zerk and all it ever did was puke grease out of the bottom and not a drop out of the top. The head would have to get excessive slop before I did a thing to it, never happened yet to any bike I have owned.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2015 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SafetyMan
The manual states "Inspect, lubricate and adjust" at 25k...

If I'm that deep into it, I'm replacing.
This ! Why reuse the old bearing assembly ?
 
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Old Feb 24, 2015 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyTX
Why reuse the old bearing assembly ?
Cause you would have to drive out the outer races out of your steering head and then press in the new ones. Seems like a lot of work if the bearings you have are good.

Has anyone ever had a catastrophic bearing failure in the steering head? I would have to think NOT!
 
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Old Feb 24, 2015 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jstrenn
Cause you would have to drive out the outer races out of your steering head and then press in the new ones. Seems like a lot of work if the bearings you have are good.

Has anyone ever had a catastrophic bearing failure in the steering head? I would have to think NOT!
Not a catastrophic failure but I rode a co-workers mc one day and it had a detent straight ahead. You almost had to bump the handle bars to get it into a turn.


It is not hard to drive the races out and put the new ones in. On my Goldwing I rebuilt the front forks and installed new head bearings in 4 hours.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2015 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pkwett94
Not a catastrophic failure but I rode a co-workers mc one day and it had a detent straight ahead. You almost had to bump the handle bars to get it into a turn.

It is not hard to drive the races out and put the new ones in. On my Goldwing I rebuilt the front forks and installed new head bearings in 4 hours.
If my steering felt like your co-workers, that's when I would have cause for concern. I would tear it all apart and replace bearings.

I think everyone is missing my point. I know it's not hard to do... I'm an aviation mechanic (engines) for over 30+ years. None of this is rocket science, I just don't think it's necessary to tear down the complete front end of the bike every 2 or 3 years to lube and inspect a bearing that you can feel if there are any issues by jacking up the bike and feeling and listening to it by swinging the handlebars back and forth. Checking and measuring the swingback and adjusting the preload if needed.


For those of you that feel you are doing you and your bike a big favor by replacing these bearings "just because your there" great. That's your choice. But I know what I'm gonna do....
 

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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jstrenn
If my steering felt like your co-workers, that's when I would have cause for concern. I would tear it all apart and replace bearings.

I think everyone is missing my point. I know it's not hard to do... I'm an aviation mechanic (engines) for over 30+ years. None of this is rocket science, I just don't think it's necessary to tear down the complete front end of the bike every 2 or 3 years to lube and inspect a bearing that you can feel if there are any issues by jacking up the bike and feeling and listening to it by swinging the handlebars back and forth. Checking and measuring the swingback and adjusting the preload if needed.


For those of you that feel you are doing you and your bike a big favor by replacing these bearings "just because your there" great. That's your choice. But I know what I'm gonna do....
I agree with you jstrenn. I had over 75,000 on an '07 Ultra and never tore it down, inspected or repacked them. And like Just Me said, all it ever did was puke grease out the bottom. If there is a problem with the steering head bearings you will feel it long before it becomes catastrophic. I do not intend to waste my time doing this tear down at 25K. If I feel a problem, then I will tear it down and inspect and take whatever steps are required at that time. My bike, my rules!
 
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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BezerkoBob
I had over 75,000 on an '07 Ultra and never tore it down, inspected or repacked them.
Did you ever grease them?

Different animal.

Your bike your rules. I'm good with that.



But then again, there's a reason I won't buy a used bike as my primary ride...
 
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Originally Posted by jstrenn
None of this is rocket science, I just don't think it's necessary to tear down the complete front end of the bike every 2 or 3 years to lube and inspect a bearing that you can feel if there are any issues by jacking up the bike and feeling and listening to it by swinging the handlebars back and forth.
I for one wish the maintenance interval was a lot more than 25k miles for these bearings. Only took me 8 months to hit that mileage level, and that's pretty normal for me. Every two to three years would be nice!
 
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Old Feb 26, 2015 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SafetyMan
Did you ever grease them?

Different animal.

Your bike your rules. I'm good with that.



But then again, there's a reason I won't buy a used bike as my primary ride...
In over 75k miles I "greased" them once, at the 75K. I gave them 2 pumps from the grease gun, "just because". I even took the time to put a 45 degree zerk fitting in. But I never took them apart, cleaned, inspected and repacked them. I did not encounter any issues with the front end at all. Always smooth and every time I checked the swingback it was always perfect.

And I agree with you, I always buy new also, for the same reason.
 
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