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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 04:32 PM
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I go through a pair of tires a season. This year I had my buddy who owns a shop mount them. I had purchased them online.
He did it as a favor. I was going on a trip the following week. I will purchase the tires from him next time. It's the right thing to do.
 

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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 05:15 PM
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Why would any shop install tires or parts you bought somewhere on line because they were cheaper? A shop has to make money to stay in business.

Do the right thing and buy the parts from them. Next time they may cut you a deal.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 05:44 PM
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I have been buying online and taking my wheels to the local Honda shop and they put them on for $45.00 each. Last time I was there they told me they are stocking the same tire "American Elite" at a competitive price. I'll give them a chance next time to sell me the tires.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Afdharley
Why would any shop install tires or parts you bought somewhere on line because they were cheaper? A shop has to make money to stay in business.

Do the right thing and buy the parts from them. Next time they may cut you a deal.
There's more value to the shop in labor than on tire mark ups, especially when competing with on-line sellers.

For instance, my two tires, half hour labor for 60 bucks. The tire changer gets 10-12 an hour? It cost the shop about 10-12 bucks to change the tires plus the cost of equipment and store front. I think they did OK tagging me for about 40 bucks profit. If their guy did it all day, every day, he'd pull in 320 a day in profit until the cost of equipment was recovered then the margin would rise. Not too bad pulling in 6400 a month based on a 5 day work week just changing tires. Keep in mind the shop owner will probably have e some other employee related expenses that will come out of this pot, insurance, unemployment insurance, etc etc....
 

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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Nomadmax
If you can't find someone to mount and balance bring in tires on the wheels for around 25.00 per wheel I'd do them myself.

Do it yourself???? On a Harley?? That's like having a BMW & getting your Dad to work on it!!



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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 06:24 PM
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I usually have my dealer do it. Just wait for the winter season when they have tire sales and install deals.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 06:31 PM
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I've started using metric shops,better prices and they usually will let u carry in the tires.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 06:37 PM
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My Indy acknowledges that he can't touch the prices I buy my tires for but he's happy to mount and balance mine for $25 a wheel.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Afdharley
Why would any shop install tires or parts you bought somewhere on line because they were cheaper? A shop has to make money to stay in business.
Originally Posted by rwhisen
There's more value to the shop in labor than on tire mark ups, especially when competing with on-line sellers.

For instance ...
And, as I pointed out, it's also *minus* the cost of employing a partsman to find and order the parts, process and store them, account and pay for them, service the banks if it's done on loans. Even paying in cash to the banks costs today.

If you charge by the hour, what difference does it make what you are doing during that hour? You want as many hours as possible.

I'd say there's a good argument for running a "service only, you supply all parts" business, especially with a small shop where the money earner, the mechanic, might be having to do so himself.

Shops also have the problem of having to make up minimum orders, i.e. order stock they don't need or want.

I had a problem with one Indy over an insurance job I had to use a dealer for. He tried to coerce me into buying a cheap lead-acid battery he stocked at full price. All I wanted was the choice of which battery I wanted, a better one which was cheaper via the box shifters on the Internet. To be honest, the money was not even the issue as long as I got what I wanted.

He coerced, and let's be honest, it's coercion to buy we are talking about and so I pulled my bike out and he loss $1,000, all future business, and all recommendations. Instead I recommend people to stay away from him.

It's a short sighted business model.

Imagine you walk into a restaurant to buy a pizza and they say, we won't sell you a pizza unless you pay for a dessert too. You don't want a dessert.

What do you do?

You walk to another restaurant and they treat you well with respect and gratitude, you buy the dessert and a coffee because you feel good.

For the sake of a few dollars they are losing customers and cannot even see the customers are 9 times out of 10, doing them a favour, e.g take the tyre rack out (costs to store) and fit in another service bench (earns).
 
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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 07:27 PM
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I guess I'm the only one who never needs tires when the dealer has a sale on tires.
 
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