Limited -- cb ptt switch -- rant!!
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Have a search - its been done.
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Having now completed several thousand miles on the limited I feel qualified to provide an evaluation of the position of the Push To Talk (PTT) switch for the CB radio --- in short and specific terms IT SUCKS A BIG ONE!!!--- whomever at Mother HD that came up with this RH position has never ever ridden this bike and to used the CB --- why would anyone in their right mind try to put this on the same side as the throttle ??---it might work when a rider is on cruise control but trying to thumb the PTT while properly controlling the throttle is dangerous as hell especially in city traffic when trying to lead a group of riders. The pre 14 bikes with the switch on the LH side are vastly better plain and simple------sometimes one has to wonder about the experience and mentality of those engineering designer types that make these decisions --- get a rope!
Hopefully somebody will develop a means by which to move the PTT to the left handlebar position where it belongs --- as somebody previously mentioned it would be even better located where the odometer button is.
Hopefully somebody will develop a means by which to move the PTT to the left handlebar position where it belongs --- as somebody previously mentioned it would be even better located where the odometer button is.
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So the next question is how hard would it be to reverse the switches -- cruise to PTT and PTT to the existing cruise position??---------has anybody done this ?? ------thoughts??----------
Not sure how many wires etc ?
Not sure how many wires etc ?
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With the canbus system I would say pretty near impossible. That said, for HD to make the change via software would be pretty easy. Don't hold your breath for it to happen until the revamp the touring bikes again around 2019.
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Since each CAN BUS device (switch) has an unique address programmed into it, it shouldn't matter where the device is placed on the BUS.
Just got to be brave enough to move one and try it out. I would experiment on some take offs...
Someone will do it eventually.
EDIT: I just took one apart. The breadboard switches (just like the pressure switches under the keys on a computer keyboard) are fused and molded into the switch assembly. Not coming out. Not simple modules to swap. I put it back together and hope for a software fix. It does look like the physical switch buttons would be easy to swap as they are replaceable, but no way you're going to get the pressure switches relocated without destroying something.
Too bad.
Last edited by lp; Sep 23, 2015 at 07:18 PM.
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EDIT: I just took one apart. The breadboard switches (just like the pressure switches under the keys on a computer keyboard) are fused and molded into the switch assembly. Not coming out. Not simple modules to swap. I put it back together and hope for a software fix. It does look like the physical switch buttons would be easy to swap as they are replaceable, but no way you're going to get the pressure switches relocated without destroying something.
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Can't be done - as P51Bombay says because it's Canbus. (Although again as he says, it would be an easy software change for the MoCo)
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I've been wanting to try this. Just have not been brave enough to take the switch assemblies apart.
Since each CAN BUS device (switch) has an unique address programmed into it, it shouldn't matter where the device is placed on the BUS.
Just got to be brave enough to move one and try it out. I would experiment on some take offs...
Someone will do it eventually.
EDIT: I just took one apart. The breadboard switches (just like the pressure switches under the keys on a computer keyboard) are fused and molded into the switch assembly. Not coming out. Not simple modules to swap. I put it back together and hope for a software fix. It does look like the physical switch buttons would be easy to swap as they are replaceable, but no way you're going to get the pressure switches relocated without destroying something.
Too bad.
Since each CAN BUS device (switch) has an unique address programmed into it, it shouldn't matter where the device is placed on the BUS.
Just got to be brave enough to move one and try it out. I would experiment on some take offs...
Someone will do it eventually.
EDIT: I just took one apart. The breadboard switches (just like the pressure switches under the keys on a computer keyboard) are fused and molded into the switch assembly. Not coming out. Not simple modules to swap. I put it back together and hope for a software fix. It does look like the physical switch buttons would be easy to swap as they are replaceable, but no way you're going to get the pressure switches relocated without destroying something.
Too bad.
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I mean, it could be done, but it's going to be one of those deals comparable to changing out the LEDs in the instrument gauges. Tricky and no room for error.
Going to take patience, a steady hand, and good equipment to de-solder the controller from the board and relocate it.
We have a micro-miniature (2M) station at work I would try, but not on my brand new bike. If a spare set fell in my lap I would try.
It's not that it's CAN BUS that makes this hard - actually that would make it easier - it's that the back of the switches are molded in with some type of automotive silicone stuff so you can't even get to the contacts. Stinks...
Going to take patience, a steady hand, and good equipment to de-solder the controller from the board and relocate it.
We have a micro-miniature (2M) station at work I would try, but not on my brand new bike. If a spare set fell in my lap I would try.
It's not that it's CAN BUS that makes this hard - actually that would make it easier - it's that the back of the switches are molded in with some type of automotive silicone stuff so you can't even get to the contacts. Stinks...