No cruise while autotuning?
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BTW they refused to replace the FP3 unit when contacted about constant connectivity issues. Guess it's a "known" issue and have heard from others that have received replacements. I will be persistent though. I'm stubborn 
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We have no problem in replacing a defective unit, but proving that the unit is having a wireless connectivity issue is the greater task. 99% of the time, connectivity issues are a result of competing for bluetooth priority, i.e. your entertainment system or having another device that was previously paired, connect before the device you are currently attempting with does. Send me an email direct to cneely@vanceandhines.com and I will help you out.
As for your AutoTune question, we greatly discourage using the cruise control. This will only populate a very small area of the grid, thus negating the purpose of AutoTune. Also, the tech stating that cruise control will not work, I believe that was a miscommunication, and I apologize for that. Sometimes technical phone conversations can be lost in semantics. The FP3 does not control the cruise control, that is a calculation within the BCM (Body Control Module). Which the FP3 does not communicate with, or know how to. There are many prerequisites prior to using the cruise control, wheel speed minimum, TPS minimum etc... Also intermittent connection issues can also cause this but usually noticed before you even get out of your driveway.
All AutoTune does is turn off your Accel enrichment, Decel-Enleanment and flash the AFR table all to 14.45. It does not change anything within the tables of the ECM.
Hope this helps.
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Did you send an email response through the application or through the Vance & Hines help line through the website?
We have no problem in replacing a defective unit, but proving that the unit is having a wireless connectivity issue is the greater task. 99% of the time, connectivity issues are a result of competing for bluetooth priority, i.e. your entertainment system or having another device that was previously paired, connect before the device you are currently attempting with does. Send me an email direct to cneely@vanceandhines.com and I will help you out.
As for your AutoTune question, we greatly discourage using the cruise control. This will only populate a very small area of the grid, thus negating the purpose of AutoTune. Also, the tech stating that cruise control will not work, I believe that was a miscommunication, and I apologize for that. Sometimes technical phone conversations can be lost in semantics. The FP3 does not control the cruise control, that is a calculation within the BCM (Body Control Module). Which the FP3 does not communicate with, or know how to. There are many prerequisites prior to using the cruise control, wheel speed minimum, TPS minimum etc... Also intermittent connection issues can also cause this but usually noticed before you even get out of your driveway.
All AutoTune does is turn off your Accel enrichment, Decel-Enleanment and flash the AFR table all to 14.45. It does not change anything within the tables of the ECM.
Hope this helps.
We have no problem in replacing a defective unit, but proving that the unit is having a wireless connectivity issue is the greater task. 99% of the time, connectivity issues are a result of competing for bluetooth priority, i.e. your entertainment system or having another device that was previously paired, connect before the device you are currently attempting with does. Send me an email direct to cneely@vanceandhines.com and I will help you out.
As for your AutoTune question, we greatly discourage using the cruise control. This will only populate a very small area of the grid, thus negating the purpose of AutoTune. Also, the tech stating that cruise control will not work, I believe that was a miscommunication, and I apologize for that. Sometimes technical phone conversations can be lost in semantics. The FP3 does not control the cruise control, that is a calculation within the BCM (Body Control Module). Which the FP3 does not communicate with, or know how to. There are many prerequisites prior to using the cruise control, wheel speed minimum, TPS minimum etc... Also intermittent connection issues can also cause this but usually noticed before you even get out of your driveway.
All AutoTune does is turn off your Accel enrichment, Decel-Enleanment and flash the AFR table all to 14.45. It does not change anything within the tables of the ECM.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you for the information. I should have added that I don't nor do I intend to use the cruise control in great length. Just needed my Right hand free momentarily when I encountered that. But it's working now. I also spoke with a technician and think I have things resolved. He addressed the connectivity issue and seems to be resolved as of now. But the issue of losing green populated cells several times is still a mystery. He had no idea why that was occuring other than a poor connection with the bike. But connection is solid. Could it be a memory issue since I was utilizing auto tune mode beyond recommendation? He said to only auto tune for 3 1hr sessions, applying data after each session. Then finishing after third session. And no longer than a tank full. I was several sessions and 2 tanks in on a single auto tune without applying anything.
It is possible the connection issue was Memory leaks within the phone when you are maxed out on RAM, but that is pretty rare. Depending on what device your have iOS or Android, I recommend wiping the cache partition (android) and clearing out any unused "idle" apps. Just reboot iOS.
The key is Applying. Applying helps narrow down your AutoTune much faster and build a better map. AutoTune only has the capability of adjusting 15% within each session, thus if your current map is 35% off (rare but not unheard of), it would require 3 sessions to get you where you need to be.
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As I said before I didn't "apply" or "finish" settings and connection is solid when I lost some green cells. Not all of them disappeared, just recently populated ones. I will be testing again shortly using the recommended procedure and see if it happens again. I am using an android phone and memory is consistently cleared. I was referring to the memory of the FP3 if possible.
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