FP3 - Running the app from a computer
Road Master
Joined: Mar 2013
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From: Phoenix, AZ
Just suck it up and get a new phone when you sign a new service agreement. They are almost free anyway (at least a few models back) or go on Craigslist and by an iPhone 5 or Galaxy 5 and do it. You will like your new smart phone and you can have your grandkids show you how to work it?
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Road Warrior
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From: Connecticut
No grandkids.
I pay $30 a year to keep the flip phone active (yes, $30 for the entire year). I don't think I made more than 3 calls on it last year -- again, for the entire year!
I pay $30 a year to keep the flip phone active (yes, $30 for the entire year). I don't think I made more than 3 calls on it last year -- again, for the entire year!
Road Captain
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From: Colorado
Perhaps first things first? You dont even have the bike yet..
You then have to break it in, and you could just have the dealer tune it where you want it to be as part of the Final Tune after break in, which should be free.
Youre going to an awful lot of trouble, which is admirable; but its a half-assed and perhaps risky way of doing it. Youre going cheap on a product for a bike you want to dump a ton of money on to start with. Running a setup like that risks corrupting the ECM, and voiding the warranty. Of course it may be that you have it planned out right, and you know exaclty what youre doing. More power to you, and I hope it works out; BUT, it seems like youre just creating a problem to solve where none needs to exist.
You then have to break it in, and you could just have the dealer tune it where you want it to be as part of the Final Tune after break in, which should be free.
Youre going to an awful lot of trouble, which is admirable; but its a half-assed and perhaps risky way of doing it. Youre going cheap on a product for a bike you want to dump a ton of money on to start with. Running a setup like that risks corrupting the ECM, and voiding the warranty. Of course it may be that you have it planned out right, and you know exaclty what youre doing. More power to you, and I hope it works out; BUT, it seems like youre just creating a problem to solve where none needs to exist.
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I think this will work, but I only see one thing to be cautious about. If something were to go bad with the connection, or app, during a firmware write, you run the risk of bricking your ecm. I am not saying this will or has happened, but by running the app in an emulator you obviously have more probability of bugs as I doubt many have tested it.
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Road Warrior
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From: Connecticut
24v wrote:
"I only see one thing to be cautious about. If something were to go bad with the connection, or app, during a firmware write, you run the risk of bricking your ecm. I am not saying this will or has happened, but by running the app in an emulator you obviously have more probability of bugs as I doubt many have tested it."
Your point is taken.
But... from my experience, the FP3 app runs in BlueStacks (on the Mac) smoothly and cleanly. No glitches, no crashes, no hangs. It just runs.
Which is why I was asking if someone else with a Mac laptop (10.8.5 or later) would download the BlueStacks app, get it running, then download the FP3 app and see if the bluetooth would connect to an installed FP3. This is the only part of the software I can't [yet] try. That person wouldn't need to -change- anything. I just want to know if the bluetooth on the Mac will pair with the bluetooth of the FP3 hardware.
I -believe- that it -will- connect, quickly and seamlessly, and then be fully-functional. But I can't try it.
As an aside, if I get a new bike like a Road King (without a built-in stereo), I'll have to come up with a new way of listening to music on it, as well. Again, this will not be what "the usual Harley rider" does.
I'm thinking of going to a Sena 10u, mounted fully inside a Shoei GT-Air. To control it, I was thinking of an Android tablet, around 7-8" in size, mounted to either the handlebars, inside of the windshield, or perhaps even inside a "bare-bones" type fairing unit. Hardest part of that will be finding a weatherproof case to hold it, and a suitable mounting bracket to keep everything in place.
"I only see one thing to be cautious about. If something were to go bad with the connection, or app, during a firmware write, you run the risk of bricking your ecm. I am not saying this will or has happened, but by running the app in an emulator you obviously have more probability of bugs as I doubt many have tested it."
Your point is taken.
But... from my experience, the FP3 app runs in BlueStacks (on the Mac) smoothly and cleanly. No glitches, no crashes, no hangs. It just runs.
Which is why I was asking if someone else with a Mac laptop (10.8.5 or later) would download the BlueStacks app, get it running, then download the FP3 app and see if the bluetooth would connect to an installed FP3. This is the only part of the software I can't [yet] try. That person wouldn't need to -change- anything. I just want to know if the bluetooth on the Mac will pair with the bluetooth of the FP3 hardware.
I -believe- that it -will- connect, quickly and seamlessly, and then be fully-functional. But I can't try it.
As an aside, if I get a new bike like a Road King (without a built-in stereo), I'll have to come up with a new way of listening to music on it, as well. Again, this will not be what "the usual Harley rider" does.
I'm thinking of going to a Sena 10u, mounted fully inside a Shoei GT-Air. To control it, I was thinking of an Android tablet, around 7-8" in size, mounted to either the handlebars, inside of the windshield, or perhaps even inside a "bare-bones" type fairing unit. Hardest part of that will be finding a weatherproof case to hold it, and a suitable mounting bracket to keep everything in place.
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I downloaded BlueStacks and got FP3 loaded on my mid-2009 MacBook Pro. I was getting ready to head out to the garage when I noticed the MacBook was missing Bluetooth. Apparently, either the Bluetooth module is bad or one of the OS upgrades (Mavericks or El Capitan) crapped Bluetooth. So, needless to say, I can't help you.
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From: Rolla
I downloaded BlueStacks and got FP3 loaded on my mid-2009 MacBook Pro. I was getting ready to head out to the garage when I noticed the MacBook was missing Bluetooth. Apparently, either the Bluetooth module is bad or one of the OS upgrades (Mavericks or El Capitan) crapped Bluetooth. So, needless to say, I can't help you.
Is it just not showing up in the top menu bar?
Check in System Preferences and see if it shows up there.
Apple Menu > System Preferences.
If Bluetooth shows up there, click on it to open.
Now, make sure the "Show Bluetooth in menu bar" is checked.
From there, you can Bluetooth on or off.
I don't think any of the latest updates have had any ill effects on Bluetooth.
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Bluetooth is nowhere to be found. Google "bluetooth not available" and you'll see that it's a very common Apple phenomenon. I've tried every fix known and nothing works.
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From: Rolla
But just like some of the issues here, there are far more out there not experiencing the issue.
So, it isn't as common as it seems.
I work in our IT department, and we have over 320 Mac's in use at our company with just about all of them using a Bluetooth mouse.
This is the first I've head of this issue, and we haven't had anyone here experience it yet.
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From: Des moines IA
As an aside, if I get a new bike like a Road King (without a built-in stereo), I'll have to come up with a new way of listening to music on it, as well. Again, this will not be what "the usual Harley rider" does.
I'm thinking of going to a Sena 10u, mounted fully inside a Shoei GT-Air. To control it, I was thinking of an Android tablet, around 7-8" in size, mounted to either the handlebars, inside of the windshield, or perhaps even inside a "bare-bones" type fairing unit. Hardest part of that will be finding a weatherproof case to hold it, and a suitable mounting bracket to keep everything in place.
I think I'd buy the bike, then a tablet or smartphone to run the FP3 and then you'll have one for music also.