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Let me throw this in: At 25kmi service there was a leak noticed on the right side fork tube, so the tech pulled them figuring new seals were needed. The lowers were shot & needed to be replaced (done under ESP) w/new lowers. By "shot" I mean there were areas of excessive wear that prevented a good rebuild. I'm guessing the failure was due to improper cleaning or prep when the lowers were removed & sent out for powder coating before I took delivery when I purchased the bike new? IDK? If any case, the original lowers did wear out & got replaced under ESP.
Thanks Hammz! IMO, if it has moving parts, it can wear out. Maybe 100k miles is unlikely in 'most' cases, but you have demonstrated it can be done.
Thanks Hammz! IMO, if it has moving parts, it can wear out. Maybe 100k miles is unlikely in 'most' cases, but you have demonstrated it can be done.
Improper service and cleaning (too long between oil changes) certainly will increase the wear and tear. I would have huge mistrust of someone trying to sell me a new set of lowers... The oil isn't going anywhere if the seals are installed properly. Wear would cause the compression to be less, but not extremely so. Springs take up the heavy compression and handle the rebound and the oil and air take up the lesser compression and make the suspension more forgiving. The bushings have little to do with either of these things from what I saw when I re-did my front forks.
The only thing I can see the bushings doing in the case of excessive wear is creating slop between the fork tubes and the lowers which of course could have an effect on handling... but this would have to be really bad IMHO.
Improper service and cleaning (too long between oil changes) certainly will increase the wear and tear. I would have huge mistrust of someone trying to sell me a new set of lowers... The oil isn't going anywhere if the seals are installed properly. Wear would cause the compression to be less, but not extremely so. Springs take up the heavy compression and handle the rebound and the oil and air take up the lesser compression and make the suspension more forgiving. The bushings have little to do with either of these things from what I saw when I re-did my front forks.
The only thing I can see the bushings doing in the case of excessive wear is creating slop between the fork tubes and the lowers which of course could have an effect on handling... but this would have to be really bad IMHO.
WTF are you trying to say? Service intervals & work was not ignored or beyond recommendations. And as I stated, everything was covered under warranty. No one tried feeding me a line of crap to get me to buy anything.
Also, your comments regarding seals & bushings are irrelevant; I had/have cartridge front suspension. Also, springs DO NOT "handle the rebound."
This is a pic of the crap that came out of the right fork lower. Mostly aluminum scrubbed off the inside of that fork lower by the bushings.
WTF are you trying to say? Service intervals & work was not ignored or beyond recommendations. And as I stated, everything was covered under warranty. No one tried feeding me a line of crap to get me to buy anything.
Also, your comments regarding seals & bushings are irrelevant; I had/have cartridge front suspension. Also, springs DO NOT "handle the rebound."
This is a pic of the crap that came out of the right fork lower. Mostly aluminum scrubbed off the inside of that fork lower by the bushings.
First, I don't know what model you have. Second, I didn't say anywhere that YOU must not have done service. Third, I related my experience to my bike which is a '14 Road King and for that configuration I believe that my statements are true and are possible reasons for a problem such as yours. Since you don't have any of the issues I was talking about then warranty seems like an appropriate solution. Chill...
First, I don't know what model you have. Second, I didn't say anywhere that YOU must not have done service. Third, I related my experience to my bike which is a '14 Road King and for that configuration I believe that my statements are true and are possible reasons for a problem such as yours. Since you don't have any of the issues I was talking about then warranty seems like an appropriate solution. Chill...
First, if you had read the thread you would know what model I have.
Second, your comments basically stated that the only way fork lowers could wear out was through bad/poor maintenance, which in your 3rd point you contradict your 2nd point by saying you were referring to my "problem."
Third, don't try to blow off your comments as an over-reaction by me because not only did you not add anything constructive to the conversation, but you insinuated my lower leg failure was due to bad/poor maintenance.
Had you really read my post, you would have understood the failure was probably due to poor cleaning after prep for powdercoat by a third party supplier, which may have been an oversight by that supplier.
First, if you had read the thread you would know what model I have.
Second, your comments basically stated that the only way fork lowers could wear out was through bad/poor maintenance, which in your 3rd point you contradict your 2nd point by saying you were referring to my "problem."
Third, don't try to blow off your comments as an over-reaction by me because not only did you not add anything constructive to the conversation, but you insinuated my lower leg failure was due to bad/poor maintenance.
Had you really read my post, you would have understood the failure was probably due to poor cleaning after prep for powdercoat by a third party supplier, which may have been an oversight by that supplier.
Perhaps you're the one that should chill?
Of course there is no doubt that you are absolutely correct and I apologize for trying to be of help. It must be because I am such an idiot.
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