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I believe their ESP is entirely underwritten by a third party, after your factory expires, it becomes a threesome my friends.
Boardtrackers ESP also a third party insurer is looking better everyday, so many policies sold at half the price of HD and not one negative review on here all have been positive.
At most I've seen a photo request for a tire claim. Not sure why H-D would desire the extra expense of an inspector. Glad you got the tires covered!
Last edited by Discount ESP; Mar 13, 2018 at 09:29 PM.
Yeah, I can see that. The front was flat. Based on tread of both the front and rear prior to this incident, I would have ridden many more miles before replacing them. I just happened to notice the nail in the rear while waiting on my buddy to get his trailer. Dealer says inspector will remove the nail to determine if the tire will leak and how far it penetrated.
Maybe they have had problems in the past there about tread depth measurements or they have a high incident rate. Either one could put them on inspect
Maybe they have had problems in the past there about tread depth measurements or they have a high incident rate. Either one could put them on inspect
It could be that, a multiple of other things or any combination of all the above. Maybe the dealer has a high rate of warranty claims or they have a history with reporting unfounded claims, who knows. HD isn't doing all that great financially. Worldwide retail sales were down 6.7 percent in 2017 compared to 2016. U.S. retail sales decreased 8.5 percent and international retail sales were down 3.9 percent. Not to mention the closing of plants. I can see where cutting back on paying for unfounded warranty claims could be one measure to help reduce costs.
Having said all that, I don't totally understand how the ESP underwriting works with HD and CNA. Is the inspection a CNA thing or an HD thing? Or is HD completely out of it once it is turned over to CNA? I'm not sure. Maybe it's a CNA cost-reducing measure.
What I do know, both of my tires were covered. To me, that was the right and correct thing to happen, since I was not trying to scam or get something for nothing.
Not sure what normal protocol is for these things, as I have only made one previous claim under the ESP. I do recall that dealer, a different one than this, calling HD for approval. This dealer didn't request an inspector, HD said they were sending one. If they deny the claim, I will pick up the bike and take it to my indy mechanic who is half the price as HD.
You said you have 32K miles on your bike, you must have changed your tires at least once, was this one previous claim for tires? That might explain their actions...
Who has had the "pleasure" of HD sending an inspector to the dealer for warranty work approval?
My background: 2014 Limited with 32k. Have an HD ESP w/TWW that expires 9/2020. Had a front flat this past weekend. Against my normal habit, I towed it to a local dealer because my indy was out of town. Stopped by dealer this morning to follow-up on work, give other instructions and check to see if tire would be covered under TWW. I will also add that I noticed a nail in the rear. So, I wanted to find out if both would be covered under TWW. Service advisor checks tread depth and both are within range (3/32") per the ESP guidelines. I am also running OEM HD Dunlops on front and rear.
Service advisor calls HD with info and to get approval. They are sending an inspector tomorrow to look at my bike and either approve or deny the claim. Service advisor said he has heard stories from other dealers where inspectors, upon looking at other bikes, have found some to be "modified" in such a way that HD not only didn't approve the warranty work but also voided their remaining ESP coverage. Granted, my bike is not visibly "modified" other than a different header and Rinehart slip ons. Only engine mod is tune and cams. However, that should have no impact on tires and wheels. Now, to what extent HD noticed other bikes being modified in such a way that HD would void their warranty, I don't know. But I will be one upset HD owner if I experience the same. Other than the recalls, I have only submitted one warranty claim, which was for the original rear tire with a nail in the sidewall.
So your whole query is based on a hypothesis then that hasn't happened?
Edit; So you got new tires. That's a good thing.
Last edited by lionsm13; Mar 14, 2018 at 12:35 PM.
Reason: Edited to add.
You said you have 32K miles on your bike, you must have changed your tires at least once, was this one previous claim for tires? That might explain their actions...
Originally Posted by Puddles
.... I have only submitted one warranty claim, which was for the original rear tire with a nail in the sidewall.
Yes, I have changed my tires at least once. As stated above in my op, I have had one TWW claim on the rear and that happened about 30k miles ago. Does one previous TWW claim trigger an inspection for the next, possibly. Who knows?
Does anyone have a link to what is actually covered under the HD Extended Service Plan? All my info says is look at the contract which I don't think has every part listed??
So he dealer has to call...blah blah. What I am looking at is lower cylinder seals weeping. Is there a list or just what ever the warranty guys feel like approving?
Does anyone have a link to what is actually covered under the HD Extended Service Plan? All my info says is look at the contract which I don't think has every part listed??
So he dealer has to call...blah blah. What I am looking at is lower cylinder seals weeping. Is there a list or just what ever the warranty guys feel like approving?
You would have to see a copy of the contact, it should be clearly listed, some extended contacts list all the parts that are covered and others list just the parts they exclude, I haven't seen a HD contact myself, but if you go to the dealer and ask the F&I person to see a contact and have him/her go over it with you, do not take there word what is or isn't covered, also the pamphlets are pretty vague, again ask to see the contact.
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